Desperation: Police Chief Turns to Town Citizens for Ammunition Amid Nationwide Shortages
SHTF ^ | May 10th, 2013 | Mac Slavo
Posted on Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:38:58 AM by True Grit
The shortages of popular ammunition rounds has made it difficult for average citizens to acquire most calibers of ammunition through regular retail channels, but the empty shelves don’t stop there.
Police departments across the country are scarmbling to find ammunition for training and enforcement, and they’re being told that the delays for delivery are 6 – 8 months.
This prompted Proctor, Minnesota police chief Walt Wobig to send out a call for help:
The Chief says he was told he’d have to wait months, even a year to get more ammo.
Reloaders: solution to ammunition shortage?
5-9-2013 | vanity
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2013 4:46:51 PM by topher
At one time, it was popular for people to reload their own ammunition. In fact, at one time in American History, it was necessary.
It seems like this might be a hot topic for some people so that they can get enough ammunition for target practice, etc.
hot air ^ | 4/28/2013 | JAZZ SHAW
Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2013 11:36:43 PM by tobyhill
Even realizing that he was going to immediately be labeled as a Right wing conspiracy theorist by the Left, Congressman Jason Chaffetz posed a rather pesky question to the Department of Homeland Security this week which is sure to get a lot of tongues wagging. Why do they need to purchase huge stockpiles of ammunition? Far more, in fact, than the Army buys on a per capita basis.
Reps challenge DHS ammo buys, say agency using 1,000 more rounds per person than Army
fox ^ | 4/25/13 | fox
Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2013 9:44:00 PM by Nachum
But as the Department of Homeland Security found itself publicly defending the purchases, lawmakers gradually showed more interest in the issue.
The Great DHS Ammunition Stockpile Myth
Breibart – Big Government ^ | 4-4-2013 | Tom Stilson
Posted on Friday, April 05, 2013 9:42:29 AM by Sir Napsalot
There are dozens of articles hyping government purchases of ammunition over the last nine months. After spending weeks researching this topic, this is a collection of commonly held myths that are based more on panic than fact.
With the recent release of a letter from the Department of Homeland Security to Senator Coburn, the numbers we calculated independently seem to corroborate the narrative coming from DHS. The concerns surrounding DHS stockpiling ammunition are nothing but more fear-mongering and largely unwarranted. For once, here are the facts to set the record straight:
MYTH: DHS purchased 750 million rounds of several different types of ammunition in August 2012.
FACT: The DHS contract never stated 750 million rounds at any time. It is a five year contract with a maximum purchase of 70 million rounds over the life of the contract. Military Times recently addressed this issue as well.
(Gunny G: ALWAYS See Reader Responses, …please…) ~ Border Patrol Now Experiencing an Ammunition Shortage
Border Patrol Now Experiencing an Ammunition Shortage
Town Hall ^ | Apr. 5, 2013 | Katie Pavlich
Posted on Friday, April 05, 2013 9:22:08 AM by EXCH54FE
Despite the Department of Homeland Security recently putting in orders to purchase billions of rounds of hollow point ammunition for a purpose of what officials say is target practice, training and quarterly qualifications, Border Patrol agents were told yesterday afternoon that they will not be issued any new proficiency ammunition for next quarter.
Due to budget concerns and ammunition availability, we will not be getting issued any proficiency ammunition for next quarter. In addition to these reductions, we are also being limited to qualification ammo only.
What this means to you is that you will not receive the normal 150 rounds for practice and we will not have any extra ammunition for a combat course following normal qualifications.
(As Always, See Reader Responses…) ~ DHS Denies Massive Ammunition Purchase (If Congress does not find out, what good are they anyway?)
DHS Denies Massive Ammunition Purchase (If Congress does not find out, what good are they anyway?)
us news ^ | 3/23/13 | e flock
Posted on Saturday, March 23, 2013 10:01:49 AM by bestintxas
The Department of Homeland Security responded Friday to questions from Rep. Tim Huelskamp, R-Kan., about why the agency was allegedly planning to buy some 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition over the next five years.
DHS told Whispers it regularly fills all of its goods and services requirements at one time because it’s cheaper for the agency, and that the 1.6 billion number was misleading because the language of DHS’s purchase said it would need “up to” a certain amount.
Police Departments Beg And Barter For Ammo While DHS Buys Up 1.6 Billion Rounds In Past Year
CNSNews.com ^ | 03/22/2013 | Gregory Gwyn-Williams, Jr.
Posted on Friday, March 22, 2013 12:24:47 PM by AngelesCrestHighway
Meanwhile, Rep. Timothy Huelskamp (R-Kansas) says the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has failed to respond to multiple members of Congress asking why DHS bought more than 1.6 billion rounds in the past year.
1.6 Billion Rounds Of Ammo For Homeland Security? It’s Time For A National Conversation
Forbes ^ | 3/11/2013 | Ralph Benko
Posted on Monday, March 11, 2013 11:30:45 AM by LucianOfSamasota
The Denver Post, on February 15th, ran an Associated Press article entitled Homeland Security aims to buy 1.6b rounds of ammo, to far too little notice. It confirmed that the Department of Homeland Security has issued an open purchase order for 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition.
As elsewhere reported, much of this purchase order is for rounds forbidden by international law for use in war plus a frightening amount specialized for snipers.
Also reported elsewhere, at the height of the Iraq War the Army was expending fewer than 6 million rounds a month. 1.6 billion rounds, therefore, would be enough to sustain a hot war for 20+ years. In America.
Daily Sanity ^ | March 5, 2013
Posted on Wednesday, March 06, 2013 1:57:05 PM by yoe
In what can only be described as covert attack on liberty, President Obama and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) are preparing to end civil liberties and institute martial law in the United States. Over the last year, DHS has purchased more than 1.6 BILLION rounds of ammunition. Conservative-Daily raised the alarm, but the Obama Administration lulled the public to sleep with the excuse that the bullets were needed for training.
Now it has come to light that DHS has purchased 2,717 light tanks. What does DHS need with 2,717 light tanks?
It’s George Soros Fault We Have So Little Ammo… NOT!
Ammo Land ^ | Mar. 5, 2013 | Larry Keane
Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2013 3:44:09 PM by EXCH54FE
NEWTOWN, Conn –(Ammoland.com)- The latest Internet rumor has George Soros owning “most of the ammunition manufacturing companies and many arms manufacturers as well.”
It goes on to suggest that Soros and his few remaining competitors are selling new production only to the government, while the civilian market has been relegated to a fast-disappearing stock of old ammunition.
If you’re like me, you check the ammunition shelves in every retailer you visit, and we all have felt the sinking feeling of seeing nothing but empty shelves. The trend is especially acute at the “Big Box” stores where speculators check every day to see if new shipments have arrived overnight.
The gaps in the current ammunition supply are frustrating — but they are not a conspiracy.
Federal, non-military agencies, noted radio host Mark Levin last week, have purchased enough ammunition recently to not only shoot every American five times, but also engage in a prolonged, domestic war.
The numbers are based on recent reports that put the total federal ammunition buy in the last 10 months at approaching two billion rounds.
“To provide some perspective,” Levin noted, “experts estimate that at the peak of the Iraq war American troops were firing around 5.5 million rounds per month. At that rate, the [Department of Homeland Security] is armed now for a 24-year Iraq war. A 24-year Iraq war!”
Levin: US preparing for societal collapse by buying up billions of rounds of ammo [AUDIO]
The Daily Caller ^ | 2/16/2013 | Jeff Poor
Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2013 11:37:50 AM by taildragger
On Friday’s night broadcast of his radio show, Mark Levin speculated that the federal government is stockpiling ammunition to ensure the rule of law in the event of a total societal and economic collapse.
SHTF Plan ^ | 2-14-2013 | Mac Slavo
Posted on Thursday, February 14, 2013 3:22:14 PM by blam
February 14th, 2013
President Barack Obama is, arguably, the best gun salesman ever. Over 65 million guns have been purchased since the President took office in 2009. FBI background check statistics indicate that, over the last twelve months, Americans purchased a new gun every 1.5 seconds, a figure which suggests there is much more to the recent panic buying than people just stocking up to go hunting or sports shooting.
The following guns and ammo industry report indicates that every major gun and ammunition manufacturer in the country is running at 100% capacity, with many so far behind that they’ve stopped taking new orders altogether.
Fox News Channel (NO link) | 2/12/13
Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2013 2:33:51 PM by pabianice
Judge Napolitano on Fox: Watch for Obama in his SOTU message tonight to indicate he “can’t wait” for Congress to act and thus will use EOs to circumvent the law.
He will likely order the EPA to tax ammunition to pay for “the environmental damage and clean-up.” In general, he believes Obama will bury Congress in a siege of EOs, knowing that Congress will not stop him. Only Congress can levy taxes, so this sets-up a fight between Obama and the so far eunich House, a fight he wants.
Why is government stockpiling guns, ammo? … “These words – “civilian national security force” – have haunted me ever since I first read them.Obama has never explained what he meant. He’s never been called to account for that remark.Doesn’t this sound like police-state talk to you?”
Why does the civilian Department of Homeland Security need billions of rounds of ammunition?This is the agency that is responsible for policing the border. But it doesn’t.This is the agency that is responsible for catching terrorists.
But it doesn’t.So why does Homeland Security need so many weapons and enough hollow-point rounds to plug every American six times?Maybe this is the “civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded” as the Defense Department.
These words – “civilian national security force” – have haunted me ever since I first read them.Obama has never explained what he meant.
Last year, it was reported that the Department of Homeland Security had purchased 1.6 billion rounds of hollow point ammunition of various calibers for reasons that the agency refuses to reveal. On Wednesday, the DHS announced that it would acquire another 200,000 rounds from a company known as Evian Group, Inc.
The DHS put out a solicitation for the purchase on the FedBizOps.gov Web site on Dec. 17 for the agency’s Federal Law Enforcement Training Center, requesting .40 caliber hollow point rounds, Federal Ammunition of 1,000 rounds in 200 cases.
Fox News Channel | 1/29/13
Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 11:19:16 AM by pabianice
Breaking… Obama is tripling-down on gun control via executive orders. Sounds like the Class 03 FFL/C&R will be limited or abolished. Will seek to erase the limit on the EPA‘s regulating lead bullets. Here it comes, unless the Repubs do something.
Cops scramble for bullets while DHS stockpiles 1.2 billion rounds
Will the U.S. soon face a critical situation in which the federal government– primarily the Department of Homeland Security – possesses an ammunition surplus while local and state authorities face ammunition shortages and backlogs in purchasing more rounds?
Current trends could find the federal government with a strong ammunition advantage over local police and sheriff departments.
General Thomas Gage April 18, 1775 Boston, Massachusetts
Lieut. Colonel Smith, 10th Regiment ’Foot,
Having received intelligence, that a quantity of Ammunition, Provisions, Artillery, Tents and small Arms, have been collected at Concord, for the Avowed Purpose of raising and supporting a Rebellion against His Majesty, you will March with a Corps of Grenadiers and Light Infantry, put under your Command, with the utmost expedition and Secrecy to Concord, where you will seize and distroy all Artillery, Ammunition, Provisions, Tents, Small Arms, and all Military Stores whatever. But you will take care that the Soldiers do not plunder the Inhabitants, or hurt private property.
(Try AGAIN!) ~ Bank Of America, No Guns Or Ammo Purchases With Credit Or Debit Cards,You Have To Hear This! Video | Banksters
If this doesn’t clearly reveal to you that perhaps there could be more to the story than just ‘protecting children’ and ‘public safety‘, it’s willful choice to keep those eyes, ears, and mind closed..
Bank of America has decided that they are our lords telling us what we can and can not purchase!!!! ASK THE JEWS OF GERMANY HOW THE PROCESS WORKS!
However, it is the type of ammunition and not necessarily the quantity that is troubling.
First on the agenda is the .223 rifle ammunition. Just a measly 40 million rounds in the first year, and another 160 million rounds in the following four years. 200,00 million rounds in total. You know, just enough to make you cringe thinking that some government office that is not military has more ammunition than you do.
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REPORTS: No Live Ammo for MarinesWashington Free Beacon ^ | September 13, 2012 | Adam KredoPosted on Thursday, September 13, 2012 12:43:32 PM by DrewsMumU.S. Marines defending the American embassy in Egypt were not permitted by the State Department to carry live ammunition, limiting their ability to respond to attacks like those this week on the U.S. consulate in Cairo.
DHS Redacts Quantity of Ammo Order – Issues “Justification for Other Than Full and Open Competition”
In a date-redacted document, DHS claimed “Unusual and Compelling Urgency” NOT to inform the public of quantities
Second massive ammunition buy this year fuels fears of civil unrest
Fears that federal authorities
are preparing for mass civil unrest have increased after it was revealed that the Department of Homeland Security is planning to buy a further 750 million rounds of ammo in addition to the 450 million rounds of hollow point bullets already purchased earlier this year.
DHS To Purchase Another 750 Million Rounds Of Ammo mehjoo20120401010252840
A solicitation originally issued by the DHS in April but updated on Friday calls on suppliers to provide a plethora of different types of ammunition, including 357 mag rounds that are able to penetrate walls.
(“Will the characters be unmasked in time for our free country to remain free, or will we be another stiff on the slab of history.”) It looks like DHS isn’t the only ammunition hog in the United States
It looks like DHS isn’t the only ammunition hog in the United States
Activist Post ^ | 4-4-2012 | James Smith
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 7:36:39 AM by Renfield
There are two stories that have come to light recently, the first is the awarding of a contract to a munitions manufacturer for 450,000,000 hollow point rounds for the .40 caliber.
The second story which I wrote is how the Department of Homeland Security had already ordered 200,000,000 rounds of .40 caliber, but also ordered 15,000 gun cleaning kits for the .40 caliber weapons, and has put a request out for a virtual shooting gallery for the .40 caliber handguns.
Prison Planet.com » Why Does The Department Of Homeland Security Need 450 MILLION Hollow Point Bullets?
Why Does The Department Of Homeland Security Need 450 MILLION Hollow Point Bullets?
Somebody out there has decided that the Department of Homeland Security needs a whole lot of ammunition. Recently it was announced that ATK was awarded a contract to provide up to 450 MILLION hollow point bullets to the Department of Homeland Security over the next five years. Is it just me, or does that sound incredibly excessive? What in the world is the DHS going to do with 450 million rounds? What possible event would ever require that much ammunition? If the United States was ever invaded, it would be the job of the U.S. military to defend the country, so that can’t be it.
DHS ALSO HAS A BID OUT FOR 175 MILLION ROUNDS OF . 223 OR M-16/
REQUIREMENT: The total requirement is to provide an estimated 33 million rounds of .223 Remington Caliber SD and 2 million rounds of .223 Remington Caliber EP ammunition in the base year and an estimated 33 million rounds of .223 Remington Caliber SD and 2 million rounds of .223 Remington Caliber EP ammunition in each of four option years in accordance with Attachment 2, Statement of Work for .223 Remington Caliber SD and .223 Remington Caliber EP Ammunition.
A bizarre new service that allows you to lock and load your loved one’s ashes is blowing up on the internet.
Holy Smoke, based in Stockton, Alabama, boasts a ‘tribute to your outdoorsman or woman like no other,’ according to their website.
The company offers a means to ‘continue to protect your home and family even after you are gone,’ by turning ashes into fully-functioning bullets.
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The Indiana Attorney General’s office announced Wednesday that the deputy attorney general who called for Wisconsin riot police to use deadly force on protesters is no longer employed by the agency, according to WISH.Update 2:30 pm ET: Indiana official delete personal blogAn Indiana deputy attorney general who called for Wisconsin riot police to use “live ammunition” on protesters has deleted his personal blog.
Jeff Cox had claimed that Mother Jones would try to “silence” him.Original report continues below…One official in Indiana suggested over the weekend that riot police should use deadly force on those protesting Wisconsin Republican Gov. Scott Walker’s plan to strip unions of their rights.
A Saturday tweet from Mother Jones reported on the likelihood that police would soon be clearing the Wisconsin Capitol building of demonstrators.“Use live ammunition,” a Twitter user named JCCentCom replied.Full article here…