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Libertarians vs Conservatives on Guns by Mark R. Crovelli
Few issues highlight the gaping philosophical divide between libertarians and modern conservatives more starkly than the issue of guns. This might seem counterintuitive, because libertarians and modern conservatives often stand shoulder to shoulder against liberals and progressives to defend individual gun rights. The convenient alliance between modern conservatives and libertarians in the political trenches, however, conceals a fundamental and serious philosophical disagreement.
In order to fully grasp the division between libertarians and modern conservatives on this issue, it is important to understand why libertarians and conservatives think gun rights are so important. At the most general level, both libertarians and modern conservatives agree that all men have a natural right to defend themselves against aggression. More specifically, every man has a natural right to repel with violent force any unjust aggression against his life or his property.
Libertarians and modern conservatives do not defend individual gun rights out of some bizarre and loony obsession with a 200-year-old piece of parchment called “The Constitution.” On the contrary, they hold that the Constitution of the United States merely articulated something about man’s nature that has always been and always will be true.
The logical implication of this, both libertarians and modern conservatives agree, is that individuals have a natural right not just to defend their lives and their property against aggression from individual murderers and thieves, but that they have a natural right to defend themselves from unjust aggression by government. Hollow indeed would be the right to self-defense if it did not include the right to defend oneself against aggression by government – including one’s own government, because governments have killed and robbed exponentially more people than have private criminals.
Recognizing this fact, libertarians and modern conservatives agree that the natural right to self-defense must include a right to defend oneself against unjust government aggression, and that doing so usually requires more than simply a stick or a slingshot. A population armed with modern guns is not easily cowed, robbed, or massacred unless governments resort to wildly immoral and indiscriminate tactics or weapons of mass destruction.
So far so good. Libertarians and modern conservatives agree that…..
What Lies Beneath… “It is a known fact that the policies of the government today, whether Republican or Democrat are closer to the 1932 platform of the Communist Party than they are to either of their own party platforms in that critical year.”
The Event ^ | 03/09/2013 | Jay Pounder
Posted on Saturday, March 09, 2013 8:50:32 PM by jaypounder
What lies beneath… “It is a known fact that the policies of the government today, whether Republican or Democrat are closer to the 1932 platform of the Communist Party than they are to either of their own party platforms in that critical year.”
Walter Trohan – Chicago Tribun
As we are watching the nation rip itself to shreds over a 2.3% cut in the over spending of money that we don’t have, I hope that you my reader are asking yourself… why. Why is there so much controversy over such a small cut?
Photos of Russian Troops in AMERIKA – ???
Every alert American sees that we are now being set up fora miserable suffering existence under communism!This appalling story must be delivered to sheriffs and police.
The more email addresses of sheriffs and police officers that youcan find, the more possible it is to repel these communists, whointend to brutalize you and your family.
THE GATHERING STORM…
Friends,
Please note the excellent piece of art (The Gathering Storm) that is shown above.
When the storm finally hits (and it will), those of you who supported the Obama administration will be affected as well. It won’t just be us gun owners or Flat Taxers, or Pro-Lifers that get hit. You’ll be right there next to us.
You see, you all thought the Conservatives were nut cases. You know, all of us who believe in God, small government, the Second Amendment, etc. And you thought you could just go back to sleep after the election was over. In your world, America will continue as before. You’ll still have the same rights, the same nice house, the same big screen television – it’s all good. After all, your high school football team won and the other team lost – go team! Even if you have bothered to look up from the daily grind since Nov 4th, you dismissed everything that has occurred as “politics as usual” – “the same old stuff”.
In the end, it’ll all be OK won’t it?
Not this time. There are a growing number of citizens in the US that are ready to fight to shut down the government’s grab of personal freedom, it’s blatant abuse of the constitution, and it’s attempt to replace the American way of life with socialism. You have to listen carefully to hear them, but they are there. I won’t start that fight, but when it goes down I will join it.
The Only Thing Left for the Republican Party is its Obituary
Flopping Aces ^ | 12-10-12 | Michael Henkins
Posted on Monday, December 10, 2012 11:34:02 AM by Starman417
Despite its own insistence that it is very much alive, the Republican Party has now joined the crowd invisible.
The sad pathetic truth of its demise is that those who once believed in it, and cared deeply for it, are no longer around to bury it with dignity. Its corpse has now become the dancing play thing of Washington D.C. consulting firms and lobbyist.
UN Secret Meeting Set to Capture Internet Control (““If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.” ― George Washington”) – Patriot Update
“If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.” ― George Washington
Well, here they come again. The UN has devised yet another plan to strip away a little more freedom from those who use the Internet. This time they come to seize more control of the online experience. They want to decide who has the right to see what’s on the Internet. And here’s a shocker. There may be some taxes involved.
Another disturbing aspect of the Summit is that it will be held in secret sessions. The meeting itself is, of course, public knowledge, but what will take place behind closed doors is not.
The summit supposedly is focused on revising an older treaty that was approved in 1988 called the International Telecommunications Regulations (ITRs). This was ratified before the Internet became what it is today.
The Attitude of an Anarchist (“You Might Be an Anarchist… If you have the right attitude, says Tom Finnigan.”)
Anarchy is about attitude as much as philosophy. Below is a contrast between a conservative attitude toward government and the anarchist’s attitude toward government. Do you have the attitude of an anarchist?
Why Are Conservatives Covering Up the John Boehner Knuckle Dragger Comment?
Why Are Conservatives Covering Up the John Boehner Knuckle Dragger Comment?RantPolitical.com ^ | 8-16-2012 | PolitiJim @politiJimPosted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 10:06:27 AM by rightjbAlthough
I’ve been attacked by fellow conservatives, FINALLY someone is speaking the truth about Paul Ryan lack of true fiscal conservatism. And John Boehner’s reply –
together with complicit cover ups by some conservatives – had better damn well wake the rest of you up who are partying as if the Ryan nomination means the election is over.The entire 50 second video is here, but I will paraphrase it:Greta Van Susteren: Ryan’s supposed to be a fiscal hawk. How does he explain his vote for the stimulus in ‘08, the auto bailout, and TARP?Speaker John Boehner:
Gunny G: To The Proverbial Sleeping Giant/Drunk…Go Back To Sleep, It’s Likely Too Late By Now…
GUNNY G:
To The Proverbial Sleeping Giant/Drunk…Go Back To Sleep, It’s Likely Too Late By Now Anyway…And the politicians will go back undercover…..
There just is No limit to the crap you’ll take. Thanx for nothing!
Early Christian Communism
For centuries the alleged ideal of communism had come to the world as a messianic and millennial creed. Various seers, notably Joachim of Fiore, had prophesied the final state of mankind as one of perfect harmony and equality, one where all things are owned in common, where there is no necessity for work or need for the division of labor.
In the case of Joachim, of course, problems of production and property, indeed of scarcity in general, were “solved” by man no longer possessing a physical body. As pure spirits, men as equal and harmonious psychic entities spending all their time chanting praise to God, might make a certain amount of sense. But the communist idea applied to a physical mankind still needing to produce and consume is a very different matter. In any case, the communist ideal continued to be put forward as a religious, millennial doctrine. We have seen in volume I its enormous influence on the Anabaptist wing of the Reformation in the 16th century. Millennial and communist dreams also inspired various fringe Protestant sects during the English Civil War of the mid-17th century, particularly the Diggers, the Ranters, and the Fifth Monarchy Men.
The most important forerunner of Marxian communism among these Civil War Protestant sectarians was Gerrard Winstanley (1609–60), the founder of the Digger movement and a man much admired by Marxist historians.
Sibelius Spills the Beans (Liberals have to constantly hide what they believe to get votes)
Liberals accuse conservatives of using secret signals that only conservatives can hear — dog whistles — to send racist messages. These accusations are in reality a reflection of what liberals think rather than accurate assessments of what conservatives are saying, like the pimpled teen who thinks that nearly everything is a dirty joke.
Liberals, on the other hand, constantly have to hide what they believe in order to get votes — getting rid of blacks by making abortion easily available in minority neighborhoods and advocating socialism are not winning campaign positions these days. That’s why almost every liberal runs for re-election as a conservative.
Fortunately, liberals are sufficiently un-self-aware as to let their true beliefs show through their verbiage on occasion — an unconscious dog whistle, if you will.
Mark Levin unloads on Romney ~ (“Conservative radio host: ‘You’re just pissing us off!’”)
Right-leaning radio host Mark Levin launched a scathing attack on Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney today, labeling the former Massachusetts governor “sleazy” and “poisonous.
*****”Conservative radio host: ‘You’re just pissing us off!’”
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”On his Facebook page today, Levin tells Romney, “Conservatives have had enough of your sleazy campaign tactics.”
Selwyn Duke — What Conservatives and the GOP Dare Not Say about Immigration
Coulter is, of course, right – but she only dare hint at the real problem. The fact is that halting illegal migration will do nothing to forestall the socialist electoral shift to which she refers.
Question: Do you really think the demographic earthquake that turned the Golden State blue was mainly the result of illegal migration?
Conservatives begin to see the light
between the lines Joseph Farah Conservatives begin to see the light
Posted: February 14, 2011
1:00 am Eastern
© 2011
I hate to say, “I told you so.”
It’s rather cliché.
But I did try very hard to warn the conservative movement what it was doing by embracing a group of homosexual activists promoting a radical social agenda while masquerading as “conservatives.”
I don’t know if I was the first to warn about the infiltration of GOProud and how its tentacles would sow seeds of division and strife among conservatives. But I’m quite sure I was among the loudest.
Suffice it to say, few listened to the warnings. It has cost me friendships, long-time alliances and a good name among many who don’t know me except through the caricatures drawn by others making their livings under the bright lights of TV cameras accusing me of being a “publicity whore” and a “fake Christian.”
Today, more people see the truth about a group they once saw as merely a group of “conservative gays.”
Sometimes it takes a little political experience and sophistication, maybe only the kind that can come from being around long enough.
When I tried to point out to Ann Coulter that she was making a mistake by performing at a fundraiser for GOProud at the very moment it was attempting to establish its conservative bona fides, she did not take it well. Neither did many other conservatives…………
Agents Provocateurs Turn Tuition Protest Into Violent Melee
Once again, dispatched agents provocateurs have turned a peaceful protest into a property-destroying circus sideshow.
“It was supposed to be a day of peaceful protest, with students exercising their democratic right to demonstrate against soaring university fees,” reports the Daily Mail. “But anarchists hijacked the event, setting off the most violent scenes of student unrest seen in Britain for decades.
Militants from far-Left groups whipped up a mix of middle-class students and younger college and school pupils into a frenzy.”Back in the day anarchists would have criticized the very idea of state-run universities and would have denounced the act of stealing money from one segment of society to pay the tuition of another. Now balaclava-clad anarchists are the vanguard of those resentful of the fact the free lunch is over and the state cannot afford to continue this educational boondoggle.
So called anarchists apparently no longer support the philosophy that the authority of the state has no place in conduct of human relations, including education. Anarchism today translates into mindless property destruction by dim-witted hooligans.
It is used as justification by the state to attack “democratic” protesters and minimize their minor disagreements with the government and its institutions.
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Mark Levin noted, during his radio show last week, an article from the The New England Journal of Medicine which lays out how ObamaCare can be dismantled after the victory of Conservatives last Tuesday: h/t Dave Ross [AUDIO AT SITE] A more serious possibility [than repeal] is that ACA opponents could deliver on another pledge: to cut off funding for implementation.
Here is how such a process could work ~~~ The ACA contains 64 specific authorizations to spend up to $105.6 billion and 51 general authorizations to spend “such sums as are necessary” over the period between 2010 and…
Canada vs. Radical Islam: Harper’s Mixed Record
A warning to those who believe that electing a “conservative” government automatically will inspire tougher measures to fight radical Islam.A warning to those who believe that electing a “conservative” government automatically will inspire tougher measures to fight radical Islam: Canadians know from experience that this formula does not always work as planned.
When Canadian voters again rejected the nation’s “natural ruling party” — the Liberals — and handed the Conservatives their second minority government in the fall of 2008, Islamist Watch asked some prominent Canadians how Prime Minister Stephen Harper would tackle creeping Sharia and other manifestations of homegrown radical Islam.
Two years later, it is time to revisit those questions.
Why we fight
To explain the personal journey an individual takes from wide eyed liberal to level headed conservative, Winston Churchill once said “If you are not a liberal at 20, you have no heart. If you are not Conservative by 40, you have no brain.”
Experience proves this is true.One of the benefits of age is the wisdom that comes along with the gray hair.With a lifetime of experience the differences between liberal and conservative positions are easy to see and articulate. Having a growing family makes turning away from liberal ideas very easy because they don’t work. As the head of my family it is my duty to defend and protect them from all enemies as they become evident.With his baptism Sunday, we welcomed our fifth grandchild a happy and, by the grace of God, healthy baby boy into our Christian community.All of our grandchildren were with us and all of them joined us for a celebration afterward.
As I looked at the three girls and two boys ranging from 17 to newborn my joy was tempered by the reality that among them, they already owe more than 1.2 million dollars as their share of the national debt.None of them voted for any of the politicians who plunged them and us into this crushing debt. None of them has expressed support for giving illegal aliens healthcare or sending our tax money to Brazil so it can drill for oil where liberals forbid us to go.
Our grandchildren can’t vote, but they are our children’s children so it up to us to vote for them. Their parents feed and care for them, but we are the ones who must take to the streets to save their futures.
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