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The Founding Fathers discussed Socialism at the Constitutional Convention…
The Founding Fathers discussed Socialism at the Constitutional Convention
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Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2013 9:11:44 AM by ProgressingAmerica
Even called it dangerous. On May 31st, 1787, Elbridge Gerry made the following remark:
Mr. GERRY. The evils we experience flow from the excess of democracy. The people do not want virtue, but are the dupes of pretended patriots. In Massts. it had been fully confirmed by experience that they are daily misled into the most baneful measures and opinions by the false reports circulated by designing men, and which no one on the spot can refute.
One principal evil arises from the want of due provision for those employed in the administration of Governmt.
It would seem to be a maxim of democracy to starve the public servants. He mentioned the popular clamour in Massts. for the reduction of salaries and the attack made on that of the Govr. though secured by the spirit of the Constitution itself. He had he said been too republican heretofore: he was still however republican, but had been taught by experience the danger of the levilling spirit.
The New Despotism… “The Invisible Government…” by John P. Cochran
From The New Despotism
When the modern political community was being shaped at the end of the 18th century, its founders thought that the consequences of republican or representative institutions in government would be the reduction of political power in individual lives.
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Nothing seems to have mattered more to such minds as Montesquieu, Turgot, and Burke in Europe and to Adams, Jefferson, and Franklin in the United States than the expansion of freedom in the day-to-day existence of human beings, irrespective of class, occupation, or belief.
Hence the elaborate, carefully contrived provisions of constitution or law whereby formal government would be checked, limited, and given root in the smallest possible assemblies of the people.
If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility to Fight? (“I feel that a lot of American citizens feel like they have no choice but to surrender their guns if the government comes for them. I blame traditional media sources for this mass brainwash and…”)
If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility to Fight?
The D.C. Clothesline ^ | 1/3/2013 | Dean Garrison
Posted on Monday, January 07, 2013 4:38:55 PM by EBH
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I feel a tremendous responsibility to write this article though I am a little apprehensive. Thinking about the possibility of rising up against our own government is a frightening thing for many of us. I am not Johnny Rambo and I will be the first to admit that I do not want to die. The reason I feel compelled to write this, however, is simply because I don’t think the average American is equipped with the facts. I feel that a lot of American citizens feel like they have no choice but to surrender their guns if the government comes for them. I blame traditional media sources for this mass brainwash and I carry the responsibility of all small independent bloggers to tell the truth. So my focus today is to lay out your constitutional rights as an American, and let you decide what to do with those rights.
Gunny G: …THE GOD THAT FAILED, ETC…
Gunny G: …THE GOD THAT FAILED, ETC…
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May 15, 2004 … War, the God That Failed. by Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr. by Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr. Thinking back to the scandals of the Clinton years, when …
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Nov 12, 2001 … At the request of LRC, Professor Hoppe discusses his extremely important new book, Democracy: The God That Failed (Transaction Publishers …
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Jun 14, 2011 … “It is morally tragic whenever a citizen’s only choice is between two wrongdoers— that is, between two trimmers. ~Leonard E. Read …
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Sep 26, 2009 … By rendering the labor of one, the property of the other, they cherish pride, luxury, and vanity on one side; on the other, vice and servility, …
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On August 8, 2008, In Podcast, By editor. Lew Rockwell interviews Hans- Hermann Hoppe. 15. Democracy: The God That Failed [ 11:32 ] Play Now | Play in …
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Posted by Lew Rockwell on December 30, 2012 03:16 PM. 1. … Democracy: The God that Failed: The Economics and Politics of Monarchy, Democracy, and …
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Sep 1, 2009 … Recently by Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr.: Obama and the Post Office … say that no one can read works like Democracy — The God that Failed, …
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Joe Sobran on evil. President Ron Paul? Joe Sobran on The Man. What Do We Owe the State? Joe Sobran on Hans Hoppe’s Democracy, the God That Failed.
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Turn to Mr. Libertarian for the answer, says Lew Rockwell. …. Lew Rockwell on the failure of propaganda and the return of reality. ….. War, the God That Failed …
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Definitions from the Soldiers Training Manual Issued November 30, 1928
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REPUBLIC versus DEMOCRACY There is a great deal of reference by the media and sadly, even by many of our elected officials to ‘our democracy’ or ‘this democracy’ when referring to our government. The Founding Fathers of our nation
Voting: The ‘God’ That Failed! by Gary D. Barnett
It is morally tragic whenever a citizen’s only choice is between two wrongdoers—that is, between two trimmers.~Leonard E. Read … The Lesser of Two EvilsI am constantly amazed by my fellow citizen’s reverence for voting. This blind worship for this worthless endeavor is troubling to say the very least, but nonetheless firmly entrenched in the minds of the masses.
Almost from birth in this country, we are taught that voting is a “sacred” right, a right so important as to be one of, if not the greatest right. I must not have been indoctrinated properly by the government school system, as I consider the most sacred rights as those natural rights to life, liberty, and property, certainly not casting a ballot for one or another criminal in politics.
I consider voting today only as an avenue that allows one group to legally plunder another, and a process that fully legitimizes a corrupt political system. Those who vote are obviously supportive of the political process and the political actions taken in this country, and are responsible for those they elect, and for what they do in office. This is why I think the old adage that “those who do not vote have no right to complain” is backward.
The Shores of Barbary – A republic that will not defend its citizens will not last long
The Shores of Barbary- A republic that will not defend its citizens will not last long
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The American Spectator ^ | September 13, 2012 | Rober Kaplan
Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2012 7:20:36 AM by Cincinatus’ Wife
They are murderers and, yes, they are Muslim murderers.
When President Jefferson decided to send a naval expedition to Tripoli to rescue American seamen and punish the Barbary pirates, the opposition to him was practical: did we have the naval vessels and if not did we want to raise taxes to pay for them? Did we have allies with whom to embark on such a difficult campaign? Assuming success, what were we supposed to do next to insure the pirates did not lie low, regroup, begin their trade as soon as we looked the other way?
Krauthammer To Muslim Protestors In Egypt: “Go To Hell”
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Via Daily Caller:
“That statement is an embarrassment. That is a hostage statement. That’s a mob of al-Qaeda sympathizers in Egypt, forcing the United States make a statement essentially of apology, on 9/11 of all days, for something we’re not responsible. I would issue a statement saying to the mob, ‘go to hell.’
A Republic, Not a Democracy by Ron Paul… (“Keep America From becoming A democracy”)
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Last week marked the conclusion of the grand taxpayer funded spectacles known as the national party conventions.
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It is perhaps very telling that while $18 million in tax dollars was granted to each party for these lavish ordeals, an additional $50 million each was needed for security in anticipation of the inevitable protests at each event. This amounts to a total of $136 million in taxpayer funds for strictly partisan activities – a drop in the bucket relative to our disastrous fiscal situation, but disgraceful nonetheless. Parties should fund their own parties, not the taxpayer.At these
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conventions, leaders determined, or pretended to determine, who they wished to govern the nation for the next four years amidst inevitable, endless exaltations of democracy.
Meaningless Words in Politics by Ron Paul (“When You Hear a Politician Think of George Orwell.”)
Listen to Ron Paul
As we enter the fall political season, we will hear a great deal of rhetoric from both major political parties and their
Congressman Ron Paul at an event hosted in his honor at CPAC 2011 in Washington, D.C. Please attribute to Gage Skidmore if used elsewhere. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
many candidates for office. It’s important for us to remember, however, that words can be made meaningless by misuse or overuse. And when we as citizens allow politicians to obscure the truth by distorting words, we diminish ourselves and our nation.?
The Only Choice on November 6th by Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr.
The critical problem we face today is the same one all mankind has faced: the State,
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those monopolists who claim the right to break the laws that they make and enforce. How to restrain them is the critical problem of all sound political thinking. Making matters worse, this gang now has a monopoly on the money and the ability to print it, and they are abusing that power at our expense.
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Who Wants the U.S. To Make War in Syria? (“Forget Democracy We need capitalism, not more neocon mass murder. Article by Mike Rozeff.”)
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There are people vigorously promoting America’s entry into new wars in Syria and Iran. Many of them eagerly advocated the U.S. aggressions against Iraqand Afghanistan. Despite the failures of these wars to achieve the projected goals, they are urging new U.S. wars. They are the neoconservatives.
They applaud U.S. military action in places like Libya, Yemen, and Somalia. The neoconservative paradigm also looks favorably upon a U.S. military presence in countries like Uganda, Ethiopia, Kenya, Sudan, and the Central African Republic.
Gunny G: Why Has This Flag Become A Worldwide Symbol of Opposition To State Tyranny ?
Gunny G: To The Proverbial Sleeping Giant/Drunk…Go Back To Sleep, It’s Likely Too Late By Now…
GUNNY G:
To The Proverbial Sleeping Giant/Drunk…Go Back To Sleep, It’s Likely Too Late By Now Anyway…And the politicians will go back undercover…..
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There just is No limit to the crap you’ll take. Thanx for nothing!
GUNNY G: (IS DEMOCRACY REALLY MOB RULE; IS “GENUINE” DEMOCRACY PREFERABLE TO THIS “REPUBLIC”: ?) DEMOCRACY VS. REPUBLIC: ANOTHER VALID VIEW… « CITIZEN.BLOGGER.1984+ GUNNY.G BLOG.EMAIL
The Ruling Faction of America’s Revolutionaries was thoroughly Anti-Democratic.
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…..For Americans, there is still one more conceptual barrier to acceptance of genuine democracy. Some founding fathers were genuine democrats, but the winning faction falsely (and self-servingly) equated democracy with mob rule.
Americans are taught to admire the revolutionary founders of their republic. Americans are not, however, often reminded how averse some of these founders were to the Bill of Rights, how they proceeded to betray their countrymen by establishing the Rothschild-controlled First Bank of the United States.
GUNNY G: “GENUINE” DEMOCRACY VS. REPUBLIC: ANOTHER VALID VIEW…
GUNNY G: DEMOCRACY VS. REPUBLIC: ANOTHER VALID VIEW…
The Ruling Faction of America’s Revolutionaries was thoroughly Anti-Democratic.
…..For Americans, there is still one more conceptual barrier to acceptance of genuine democracy. Some founding fathers were genuine democrats, but the winning faction falsely (and self-servingly) equated democracy with mob rule.
Americans are taught to admire the revolutionary founders of their republic. Americans are not, however, often reminded how averse some of these founders were to the Bill of Rights, how they proceeded to betray their countrymen by establishing the Rothschild-controlled First Bank of the United States.
Most of us have forgotten, or never knew how brutally suppressed popular uprisings, and how close they came, during the Adams presidency, to establishing a dictatorship.
Betty Freauf — A Sampling of Ron Paul’s Adversaries
MEDIA IGNORES THE DELEGATES RON PAUL HAS WON
Ron Paul won the most delegates in Maine and Nevada. Someone named Lauren in Louisiana reported that he won 111 of 150 delegates in the Louisiana State Convention. One newspaper article said it was an embarrassment for Romney but that news never left the state. How many more states have there been there like that? After primaries in Indiana, North Carolina and West Virginia, the established media says Romney figures he’s close to the 1,144 delegates he needs to clinch the nomination. The media has been busy reporting on the France and Greece elections and the anti-government protests in Russia over Putin’s re-election. In Russia they decide between themselves who will hold which job. It’s like a swap in chess – my bishop for your rook.
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In 2008 Romney was encouraged to drop out and support McCain. He was promised his turn the next time around. Sounds like Russia. Without the Internet, we would have never learned how many states Ron Paul has won. But instead of reporting Paul’s victories, now there are those who have decided that he is doing something sneaky or unfair or, God forbid, he’s undermining democracy (mob squad). Of course, we have a “republic” which makes what Ron Paul is doing perfectly legitimate and long overdue- challenging the establishment!
Ron Paul, After the Convention by Terry Hulsey
Ron Paul at the 2007 National Right to Life Convention, held at Crown Center Hyatt Regency in Kansas City, MO; June 15, 2007, (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
……We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. – That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, – That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government.
People Aren’t Smart Enough for Democracy to Flourish, Scientists Say
The democratic process relies on the assumption that citizens the majority of them, at least can recognize the best political candidate, or best policy idea, when they see it.
But a growing body of research has revealed an unfortunate aspect of the human psyche that would seem to disprove this notion, and imply instead that democratic elections produce mediocre leadership and policies.
The research, led by David Dunning, a psychologist at Cornell University, shows that incompetent people are inherently unable to judge the competence of other people, or the quality of those people’s ideas.
For example, if people lack expertise on tax reform, it is very difficult for them to identify the candidates who are actual experts. They simply lack the mental tools needed to make meaningful judgments.
As a result, no amount of information or facts about political candidates can override the inherent inability of many voters to accurately evaluate them.
Prison Planet.com » What If Democracy Is Bunk? ~ Andrew Napolitano
What If Democracy Is Bunk? Print The Alex Jones Channel Alex Jones Show podcast Prison Planet TV Infowars.com Twitter Alex Jones’ Facebook Infowars storeAndrew NapolitanoPrisonplanet.comFriday, February 24, 2012What if you are only allowed to vote because it doesn’t make a difference?
What if no matter how you vote, the elites get to have it their way? What if “one person, one vote” is just a fiction created by the government to induce your compliance? What if democracyis dangerous to personal freedom?
What if democracy erodes the people’s understanding of natural rights and the foundations of government, and instead turns elections into beauty contests?What if democracy allows the government to do anything it wants, as long as more people bother to show up at the voting booth to support it than to oppose it?
Worship of the Mob – Ben O’Neill – Mises Daily
Several months ago, I was visiting some friends in Sydney and was invited to the house of a friend-of-a-friend for some late night drinks and a chat. My host and his friends were left-wing bohemian types and had been informed by my friend that I am a “free-market anarchist,” or something like that. They found this notion intriguing, and so they quizzed me on what that means, and this naturally led into a discussion of the merits of a free market versus a democracy.
America on the Brink of Anarchy ~ JB Williams…| The Post & Email
…..How much longer will the people sit quietly, before taking justice into their own hands, in what has clearly become a lawless society?
Clearly, government officials from the White House all the way down to your local town and all points in-between, have a total disregard for the rule of law and the Constitution of these once United States. Every day, we see government officials act beyond their authority, in direct violation of the law and their oaths of office – still, the American people sit silent, waiting… but for what?
The people allowed their Constitutional Representative Republic to be quietly replaced with a Marxist form of democracy (aka Democratic Socialism) and we are now witnessing simple democracy at its worst. Washington D.C. is the belly of the beast, in terms of political and judicial corruption and lawlessness. But that corruption and lawlessness has been systematically spread across the country, throughout the federal courts, all the way down to your local traffic court.
Judges are no longer restrained by the law. They operate as political tools for change – henchmen for a corrupt administration, federal, state and local. Our nation has been systematically pushed to the brink of anarchy, a lawless society wherein the people will have to exact justice themselves, or live under the boot of government tyranny.
The people have already been silent too long. What are they waiting for?…..
JB Williams — Wake up! Democracy IS Socialism, Dummy!
Are you sure there are two competing sides in the American battle for freedom and liberty? Or are those two sides in the battle pushing towards the same end?
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The progressive left in America is openly selling socialism now, openly selling Americans the notion that freedom doesn’t work. They are no longer operating in the shadows, but rather right up in your face. However, does the so-called “resistance” have any different end agenda? If they are selling “democracy,” they too are selling socialism! WAKE UP!
Our Founding Fathers did not form a democracy and for very good reason. As Thomas Jefferson explained, Democracy is mob rule, wherein 51% of the people can vote to take away the rights of the other 49%. When 51% of Americans no longer pay income taxes, guess how they will vote and where does that leave the other 49%, the taxpayers?
Weeping for the Republic…~ “THE GRINDING REEF OF TYRANNY”
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“THE GRINDING REEF OF TYRANNY”
by CloakNDagr, blogging at The Right Planet
(Nov. 7, 2011) — The Founding Fathers, after much argument–more than a few stubbed toes and a lot of hard feelings–settled on a Constitutional Republic as the form of government they deemed best to advance the interests of the new nation they had begun.
The reason they decided on that type of system rather than a true democracy is they were wise enough to know the purest form of democracy is a mob. A mob is also one of the lowest and most dangerous of all social phenomena. A mob is an excellent instance of people working together to a negative outcome; it’s one of the best examples of people working together when they actually shouldn’t. A mob is easy to start and hard as hell to stop … simple to put in motion, but very difficult to steer. It is nearly impossible to use a mob for any constructive purpose.
Democrats Say Free Speech Undermining Democracy
Democrats Say Free Speech Undermining Democracy
A Semi-News/Semi-Satire from AzConservative ^ | 5 Nov 2011 | John Semmens
Posted on Monday, November 07, 2011 1:18:57 PM by John Semmens
Senator Jeff Merkley (D-Ore) and six of his Party comrades are calling for a Constitutional Amendment that would limit freedom of speech “before it can destroy our democracy.”
“Political speech in this country has gotten so far out of hand that democracy itself is endangered,” Merkley contended. “Right now, anyone who wants to can say anything he wants about any public figure. The only constraint is whether he has the means to get his message out. Even this constraint is melting away. With the Internet, any boob can get an audience of millions if he’s clever enough.”
We Must Stop Obeying Unjust Laws
Judge Napolitano did the following interview with Glenn Beck on 10/26/11 to promote his new book: It Is Dangerous to Be Right When the Government Is Wrong. When a judge explains why we must stop obeying unjust laws, it is time to evaluate if the United States is still a country which follows the rule of law. Based on the abuse of power of the current administration, the impotence of the Congress and an activist judiciary, we must question our resolve to maintain our Republic. As the occupation of our cities across the nation continues, it appears that the desire for Socialism in the guise of Democracy will determine the fate of our government and children.
Or is there still a spark of the American spirit left that will stand up and challenge the government and the people to restore our rights as guaranteed by natural law?
David DeGerolamo
(Excerpt) Read more at ncrenegade.com …
Kelleigh Nelson — Occupy Wall Street and the Constitutional Convention
“Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security, or the rights of property; and have, in general, been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.” –James Madison, Federalist No. 10, 1787
“Remember democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.” –John Adams, letter to John Taylor, 1814
The group often credited with sparking Occupy Wall Street (OWS) is Adbusters, the Canadian anti-capitalist magazine founded in 1989 by Kalle Lasn and Bill Schmalz in Vancouver, British Columbia. This July, Lasn and Schmalz issued a call to flood lower Manhattan with 90,000 protesters. Lasn has been accused of anti-Semitism regarding some of the articles in Adbusters. [Link]
Kalle Lasn previously called for a protest at the upcoming G20 while demanding a one-percent tax on financial transactions. You can read The Daily Call article on this here: “Occupy Wall Street Demands Global UN Tax and Worldwide G20 Protest.”
They don’t even try to hide their affinity to the UN, they’re taking the UN’s call for the tax to the streets and screaming for its implementation. As one of the founders of Occupy Wall Street, Lasn is also in bed with the power elite Soros crowd, which helps fund his magazine, as reported by Lew Rockwell…..
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via Kelleigh Nelson — Occupy Wall Street and the Constitutional Convention.
Progressives: Thomas Jefferson was not a great american
BS !!!!!!
via Progressives: Thomas Jefferson was not a great american.
Republic, Democracy: Definitions from the Training Manual Issued November 30, 1928 « ~ BLOGGER.GUNNY.G.1984+ ~ (BLOG & EMAIL)
Republic, Democracy: Definitions from the Training Manual Issued November 30, 1928
August 14, 2008 Gunny G Definitions from the Soldiers Training Manual Issued November 30, 1928
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TM 2000-25 TRAINING MANUAL
No. 2000-25 WAR DEPARTMENT, WASHINGTON, November 30, 1928.
CITIZENSHIP Prepared under direction of the Chief of Staff This manual supersedes Manual of Citizenship Training The use of the publication “The Constitution of the States,” by Harry Atwood, is by permission and courtesy of the author. The source of other references is shown in the bibliography.
“TM 2000-25: 118-120″
Democracy
A government of the masses. Authority is derived through mass meeting or any other form of direct expression. Results in mobocracy. Attitude toward property is communistic, negating property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the people shall regulate, whether it be based upon deliberation, or governed by passion, prejudice, and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences. Results in demagoguery , license, agitation, discontent, and anarch.
“TM 2000-25:120-121″
Republic
Authority is derived through election by the people of public officials best fitted to represent them. Attitude toward property is respect for laws and individual rights, and a sensible economic procedure. Attitude toward law is the administration of justice in accord with fixed principles, and established evidence, with a strict regard to consequences. A greater number of citizens and extent of territory may be brought within its compass. Avoids the dangerous extreme of either tyranny or mobocracy. Results in statesmanship, liberty, reason, justice, contentment, and progress.
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Chief of Staff. OFFICIAL: LUTZ WAHL,
Major General, The Adjutant General
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Abolish the Presidency. It’s a Useless Job. by James Altucher
Here’s my question: What does the President even do? Do we need one?
In fact, one step further: I think the institution of the Presidency has largely ruined my life and the lives of most other people.
My proposal: We don’t need a President of the United States. In fact, he’s useless.
First off, the Constitution doesn’t even address the powers of the Presidency until Article II. The Founders clearly thought the legislative branch was more important, i.e. the actual branch that creates laws, declares wars, etc.
But, in a prior post I’ve already written that there’s no longer a need for a legislative branch the way the Founders conceived it. Times have changed and technology has driven away all of the initial reasons for a republic-based legislative branch so we can have a true democracy commanded by a much more informed electorate:
Just to summarize my prior post: The only original reasons the founding fathers had for an elected legislative branch (a republic instead of a democracy) were:
A) there was no way to transmit information quickly to the voters (now we have the internet so everyone can actually vote and be informed)
B) the founding fathers figured only rich landowners could afford to be congressmen (still mostly true) so that their interests above all would be represented (again, not a true democracy but more a bastardized distortion of one).
So now, we could:
A) save the $4bb in costs that is the budget of congress each year
B) save the trillion or so in costs that are all the “you vote for my bridge and I’ll vote for yours” pork that happens
C) save the 10s of billions in lobbying costs each year (not it would cost 100s of billions to do the same lobbying via advertising instead of just taking a congressman out for dinner)
D) avoid all the fear-mongering and partisanship that was caused by the debt ceiling argument and other similar meaningless arguments
E) actually have mothers vote on whether or not to send their kids to war.
Ok, enough on that. [See also, why I don't vote: "Politics is a Scam"]
So what’s the Presidency for? According to the Constitution:……………………
via Abolish the Presidency. It’s a Useless Job. by James Altucher.
Sic Semper Tyrannis…
Sic Semper Tyrannis:
It’s not just Monroe. Every time citizens anywhere in the country have voted on such traffic-ticketing cameras, they’ve said, “No!” Yet, politicians in city after city attempt to install the cameras to fleece citizens without their consent.
When challenged in this unpopular endeavor, in localities in which citizens enjoy initiative and referendum rights, the politicians work to overturn the applecart of democracy.
Thus it always is, with tyrants……………
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Democracy – The Most Costly Lie in American History| The Post & Email
“NOTHING MORE THAN MOB RULE”
by JB Williams, ©2011
Thomas Jefferson was a founding father and the third President of the United States
(Aug. 2, 2011) — Democracy is exactly what we have in America today and it’s even worse than Thomas Jefferson warned when he said – “A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.”
It’s really much worse than Jefferson indicated… it’s what Karl Marx said it was, “the road to socialism.”
Thomas Jefferson was a well-traveled and studied individual, commissioned to write our Declaration of Independence at the founding of our country and a significant player in the formation of our Constitutional Representative Republic. He was also one of our nation’s most prolific writers of the time, quoted more than any other Founding Father.
It was Jefferson who said – “He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.” – and once again, he may have understated the truth.
A hundred years past the onset of leftist indoctrination in America, via the press, academia, entertainment and politicians, few Americans know much about our founding principles and values, yet many are convinced that they do.
via Democracy – The Most Costly Lie in American History| The Post & Email.
Progressivism: Socialism and Democracy are one in the same
Ann Coulter recently wrote a book regarding the left’s mob mentality. Well, what does the mob want? Other people’s money. Watch them riot. What do they do? They try to grab as much of other peoples’ money as they can.
In 1887, Woodrow Wilson wrote an essay titled “Socialism and Democracy”. It’s very short, I recorded the entire thing in 13 minutes. Here is what Wilson has to say:
Roundly described, socialism is a proposition that every community, by means of whatever forms of organization may be most effective for the purpose, see to it for itself that each one of its members finds the employment for which he is best suited and is rewarded according to his diligence and merit, all proper surroundings of moral influence being secured to him by the public authority. ‘State socialism’ is willing to act though state authority as it is at present organized. It proposes that all idea of a limitation of public authority by individual rights be put out of view, and that the State consider itself bound to stop only at what is unwise or futile in its universal superintendence alike of individual and of public interests. The thesis of the states socialist is, that no line can be drawn between private and public affairs which the State may not cross at will; that omnipotence of legislation is the first postulate of all just political theory.
Applied in a democratic state, such doctrine sounds radical, but not revolutionary. It is only an acceptance of the extremest logical conclusions deducible from democratic principles long ago received as respectable. For it is very clear that in fundamental theory socialism and democracy are almost if not quite one and the same. They both rest at bottom upon the absolute right of the community to determine its own destiny and that of its members. Men as communities are supreme over men as individuals.
It gets worse:
Democracy is bound by no principle of its own nature to say itself nay as to the exercise of any power. Here, then, lies the point. The difference between democracy and socialism is not an essential difference, but only a practical difference — is a difference of organization and policy, not a difference of primary motive. Democracy has not undertaken the tasks which socialists clamour to have undertaken; but it refrains from them, not for lack of adequate principles or suitable motives, but for lack of adequate organization and suitable hardihood: because it cannot see its way clear to accomplishing them with credit.
Seeing this, now it becomes so clear as to why so many modern progressives have as their rallying cry – “democracy”. If they can just re-organize society so that it tells you what to do, how, when and so forth to do it, and it’s all passed into law in a democratic way, then they can justify their beliefs because they’ve been enshrined into law.
As if anybody can truly argue that the rule of law has triumphed here.
via Progressivism: Socialism and Democracy are one in the same.
Al Duncan — Democracy Or A Republic?
Al Duncan — Democracy Or A Republic?
Al Duncan — Democracy Or A Republic?:
“In 2001, Dr. Stanley Monteith and I co-authored an article that was published in the Lake County Record Bee entitled, America: Democracy or Republic, and what does it matter? Today, most Americans mistakenly believe that our form of government is a democracy. In the above referenced article, I examine that belief. I have herein included excerpts from that article that substantiate the original intent of America’s founding fathers.
Dr. Stan and I wrote, “If you asked 100 people whether we are a democracy or a republic, the overwhelming majority would say that we are a democracy. What is more disheartening, the overwhelming majority would not have a clue as to what a republic is.””
Posted by Gunny G at Friday, May 27, 2011
via BLOGGER.1984.GUNNY.G: Al Duncan — Democracy Or A Republic?.
I Fear For My Country
I Fear For My Country
I Fear For My Country
The Silent Majority ^ | 04-26-11 | J. D. Longstreet
Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2011 11:04:55 AM by Lexluthor69
In 2009 I wrote the following: “I fear for my country. America has gone from a vibrant capitalist society to a dying socialist society almost overnight. We have become an impotent sleeping giant sprawled across the globe whiling away our days dreaming of a socialist utopia that does not exist and never has.
If anything, we among all, people are the most to be pitied. How pathetic we have become. We have traded our shining city on a hill for a government low-rent housing project. The worst of it is… we did it of our own free will!
Yes, democracy can be a dangerous way to govern a country as the German people learned when allied bombs were raining down on their cities.
They chose the Furher of their own free will and they paid a price no nation should ever have to pay.
For democracy to exist, to thrive, and to survive, it is incumbent, it is REQUIRED, that the electorate is intelligent, learned, and knowledgeable people. Because it is they who decide, by their votes, whether democracy, in a free country, lives or dies.
The overriding question today is… Can America even survive? The answer, realistically, is… NO, she cannot… not if she continues the course she chose in 2008. Having said that, we must also say that YES, America can survive… IF she changes course and returns to her roots as a capitalist, democratic representative republic.
There is likely to be a historic internal struggle in America over the next few years to decide the issue of whether America lives or dies. It will be ugly as such struggles always are. The first indication of which form of government Americans really want is likely to come in 2010 when Americans return to the polls.
(Excerpt) Read more at silentmajority09.com …
The World According To Soros. . .
George Soros, writing for the Atlantic Monthly Digital Edition, must have been having a great laugh at his private joke when explaining how the greatest threat to Western civilization is no longer communism.
According to George Soros, billionaire capitalist extraordinaire, the greatest threat to western capitalism is . . . wait for it . . . George Soros!
“Although I have made a fortune in the financial markets, I now fear that the untrammeled intensification of laissez-faire capitalism and the spread of market values into all areas of life is endangering our open and democratic society. The main enemy of the open society, I believe, is no longer the communist but the capitalist threat.”
(Excerpt) Read more at omegaletter.com …
After the Revolution…Pat Buchanan
…”Democracy … arises out of the notion that those who are equal in any respect are equal in all respects,” said Aristotle.
But if the Philosopher disliked the form of government that arose out of the fallacy of human equality, the Founding Fathers detested it.
“A democracy is nothing more than mob rule,” said Thomas Jefferson, “where 51 percent of the people may take away the rights of the other 49.” James Madison agreed, “Democracy is the most vile form of government.
” Their Federalist rivals concurred.”Democracy,” said John Adams, “never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts and murders itself. There is never a democracy that did not commit suicide.”
“You people, sir, is a great beast,” Alexander Hamilton is said to have remarked.
If he did not, it was not far from his view.Said John Winthrop, the Pilgrim father whose vision of a “city on a hall” so inspired Ronald Reagan, “A democracy is … accounted the meanest and worst form of government.
“But did not the fathers create modernity’s first democracy?
No. They created “a republic, if you can keep it,” as Ben Franklin said, when asked in Philadelphia what kind of government they had given us.
A constitutional republic, to protect and defend God-given rights that antedated the establishment of that government…………………………
via After the Revolution.
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Democracy is the most vile form of government… democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention: have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property: and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.
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The Democrats can’t garner votes in the 2010 general elections by bragging about their legislative achievements—greater government control of our health care, more wasteful spending than ever in human history. Nor can they run on the results of their governing—chronic high unemployment and economic stagnation. So, of course, they complain about the election process, specifically about campaign spending by what they label “special interest groups.” These are not to be confused with the groups pushing special interests—government employee unions, trial lawyers—that give big bucks to them.
The “process posse” has bemoaned this year’s Supreme Court’s decision in the Citizens United case that struck down provisions of the McCain-Feingold law that limited spending on political speech during election seasons, at just the time that free speech is most needed. The Court rightly said that businesses and unions can spend their own money on ads putting forward their views on the issues of the day.The Dems’ special kvetch this time is that the money is from “unknown” shadowy groups and individuals, some of it from “overseas.” Oh no! Are foreign governments trying to buy our election? This charge concerns minute amounts of money collected as dues from overseas branches of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, money that is sequestered from the Chamber’s political spending and in any case is hardly a secret.The Dems and liberals in general complain more broadly about how money dominates elections and somehow corrupts the democratic process. But as columnist George Will is fond of pointing out, Americans spend as much each year on yogurt as is spent on political campaigns. Or Proctor and Gamble spends as much on advertising their products.
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