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Gunny G: Re Devvy’s Email Alerts: A Challenge For Those Who Believe The Government’s Story…

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Gunny G: How and When Marxism Found Its Way To America…

Most people are satisfied with the party line regarding the Civil war (so-called), Lincoln, The Republican Party (GOP), Slavery, etc.

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Likewise, they also accept that Marxism, or communism, is a fairly recent event in the United States, and little is known of Karl Marx, nor do they suspect that Marxism is at all related to the history of Civil War times and the well-known individuals of that era. Such information, though, is readily available.

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• AMERICA BACK TO ITS ROOTS? FIRST, DESTROY THE R PARTY!
• AMERICAN IMPERIALISM
• ARE COPS CONSTITUTIONAL? AS STANDING ARMY? RIGHT TO BE LEFT ALONE?, ETC.
• ARE POLICE OBLIGATED TO PROTECT CITIZENS?
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• AMERICA BACK TO ITS ROOTS? FIRST, DESTROY THE R PARTY!
• AMERICAN IMPERIALISM
• ARE COPS CONSTITUTIONAL? AS STANDING ARMY? RIGHT TO BE LEFT ALONE?, ETC.
• ARE POLICE OBLIGATED TO PROTECT CITIZENS?
• BING! (Pvt)
• BLOGGERS: THE NEW PAMPHLETEERS
• CHESTY PULLER…ON LOYALTY DOWN…

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• AMERICA BACK TO ITS ROOTS? FIRST, DESTROY THE R PARTY!
• AMERICAN IMPERIALISM
• ARE COPS CONSTITUTIONAL? AS STANDING ARMY? RIGHT TO BE LEFT ALONE?, ETC.
• ARE POLICE OBLIGATED TO PROTECT CITIZENS?
• BING! (Pvt)
• BLOGGERS: THE NEW PAMPHLETEERS
• CHESTY PULLER…ON LOYALTY DOWN…

GUNNY G: And So, The Question as to Just When Communism/Socialism Arose In America?

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Gunny G: And So, The Question Arises As To Just When Communism/Socialism Came To America?
I have seen many stories and claims as to when and where Communism, or Socialism, first reared its head here in the good old USA, but lately, I have noticed, there seems to be increasing information on this topic that may tend to confuse the issue somewhat. Much of this information has been around for a long time, but gone unnoticed by myself and apparently most others as well.

About the first time most Americans heard of communism, myself included, was during The Senator Joe McCarthy thing back in the late ’40s. Of course, information on Socialism was available long before that, but I suspect few paid much attention to it.

Not that long ago an article appeared by Alan Stang titled Republican Party Red From The Start… The article emphasized that the Republican Party had been influenced by Marxists beginning shortly after many of them from the 1848 revolution in Europe had immigrated to America. This was by the early 1850s just prior to  the election of Abraham Lincoln.
By the Civil War, many of these had found their way into government positions, including the new Union Army; and most of them were sympathetic to Northern politics, and unfriendly to the Southern cause.

Anyway, Stang’s book sparked my interest and I soon found other books on this topic, i.e.,  the “forty-eighters,” Lincoln, socialism, big government, etc.

In addition to Stang, there are books /and online articles by such authors as Dr Thomas DiLorenzo, Al Benson and Kennedy, Clyde Wilson, etc.–real eye-openers!

LewRockwell.com has a listing of numerous authors who write regularly on these, and related topics, with online archives for each writer.

Karl Marx, surprisingly, had become acquainted with Horace Greeley, and in 1851 he became a writer for Greeley’s  New York Tribune, and this continued for about ten years. And so the ideas of Marx himself had its foot in the USA doorway at that time.

And so, I was surprised by this information not only that such things had occurred, but that so little, apparently, was known of this. I had read before where writers had made reference to some form of socialism being practiced by both the Puritans and Pilgrims way back in the colonial days of our country,  and the Indiana Connection, but, again, little attention was paid as being at all relevant to modern times Communism. 

Communism, by the way, can be loosely known by many names, including Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Marxism, Leninism, etc. And many more names too, but for purposes of my little spiel here the above will do.

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…..In true Yankee fashion Ralph Waldo Emerson described various Foureristic fads as vegetarianism, free love, séances, water cures, and temperance as “a fertility of projects for the salvation of the world!” Even the insects would be “protected” in the new communistic utopia, wrote Emerson, with a society that stood “for the protection of ground-worms, slugs and mosquitoes . . .”

Horace Greeley announced that he would rather be president of a Fourier community known as the “North American Phalanx” than president of the United States. Twenty-nine Fourier communities were eventually created, none of which lasted for more than two years despite the extreme enthusiasm for them by New England’s best and brightest.

Despite all of these miserable failures, Greeley’s New York Tribune continued to promote them. Ralph Waldo Emerson was persuaded to participate in another Massachusetts “associationalist” community that was appropriately named “Fruitland,” populated by such nuts as one Samuel Larned, “a vegetarian who dined exclusively on apples one year and crackers the next . . .”

A large number of prominent New Englanders who would hold key positions in the Lincoln administration or in the U.S. Army in the 1860s participated in the “delusional schemes ” of “this muddleheaded lunatic” [Fourier], writes Flynn. In addition to Greeley, this included Charles Dana, who would be Lincoln’s assistant secretary of defense; Robert Gould Shaw, the leader of the Massachusetts Fifty-Fourth Infantry Regiment during the War Between the States who spent his childhood at Brook Farm; the abolitionist Theodore Weld; and William Henry Channing, the chaplain of Congress during the War Between the States.

As Professor Wilson noted, upstate New York became part of the “Yankee Belt” by the nineteenth century. So the region was naturally hospitable to John Humphrey Noyes, founder of the Oneida Community and author of a book entitled History of American Socialisms. Noyes called himself a “perfectionist,” as did his followers. “Most perfectionists,” Flynn wrote, were “descendants of New England Puritans.” They eventually came to call themselves “Bible Communists.” They practiced “free love” where women were considered to be “community property.” Children were removed from their parents shortly after birth and raised by “the community.”

The notion that “it takes a village to raise a child” is a very old communistic idea. Like all the other communities based on communistic ideas, Oneida collapsed after only a few years.

After the failed socialist revolutions in France and Germany in 1848, the Yankee Belt proved to be hospitable to immigrant intellectuals and political rabble-rousers from those countries who wanted to plant the seeds of communism in America. One Joseph Wedemeyer “laid the groundwork for bringing socialism from Europe to America” and found a “home” for the publication of the writings of Marx and Engels “in Horace Greeley’s . . . New York Tribune” which had “played so crucial a role in propagandizing for that earlier socialist prophet Charles Fourier.”

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• AMERICA BACK TO ITS ROOTS? FIRST, DESTROY THE R PARTY!
• ARE COPS CONSTITUTIONAL? AS STANDING ARMY? RIGHT TO BE LEFT ALONE?, ETC.
• ARE POLICE OBLIGATED TO PROTECT CITIZENS?
• BING! (Pvt)
• BLOGGERS: THE NEW PAMPHLETEERS
• CHESTY PULLER…ON LOYALTY DOWN…
• COMMIE CHICAGO By AL BENSON
• COWBOY NATION
• DR ED RIVERA, PROFESSOR OF LAW AND GOVERNMENT…
• GUNNY G SITES, ETC.
• KARL MARX, HORACE GREELEY, and JFK, Etc.
• NOW BLOG THIS! ~ GET YOUR OWN BLOG & START BLOGGING RIGHT NOW!
• PERENNIS: EUROPE’S PLAN TO SAVE THE SOUTH
• REAGAN ON CONSERVATISM and LIBERTARIANISM…
• THE “R” PARTY: RED FROM THE START By: ALAN STANG
• THE MEN WHO DESTROYED THE CONSTITUTION ~ BY: THOMAS DILORENZO
• THE REAL RON PAUL
• UNDERSTANDING WHY THE CONSTITUTION WAS AND REMAINS A DETRIMENT TO INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY
• WILL JUSTICE BE DONE ?
• WILL THE REVOLUTION BE “AMERICAN”?
• WOODROW WILSON REVEALING SPEECH!

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When Karl Marx Worked For Horace Greeley | American Heritage Magazine

On Saturday morning, October 25, 1851, Horace Greeley’s New York Tribune , entrenched after a decade of existence as America’s leading Whig daily, appeared with twelve pages rather than its usual eight. The occasion was too noteworthy to be passed over without comment by the paper itself. So a special editorial was written—probably by Greeley’s young managing editor, the brisk, golden-whiskered Charles A. Dana—to point it out.

Besides a “press of advertisements.” the editorial ran, this morning’s enlarged paper contained “articles from some foreign contributors that are especially worthy of attention.” Among these were “a letter from Madame Belgioioso, upon the daily and domestic life of the Turks, and another upon Germany by one of the clearest and most vigorous writers that country has produced—no matter what may be the judgment of the critical upon his public opinions in the sphere of political and social philosophy.”

Turning the pages to see who this most clear and vigorous German might be…..

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via When Karl Marx Worked For Horace Greeley | American Heritage Magazine.

GUNNY G: 1851: KARL MARX PLANTS HIS FOOT IN THE AMERICAN DOORWAY?

GUNNY G:THE MARX FOOT IN THE DOOR?
Karl Marx, Horace Greeley, and JFK, etc.
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GUNNY G: PERHAPS, THE VERY FIRST MARXIST ATTACK ON AMERICA…

GUNNY G: Perhaps, The very First Marxist Attack On America…
Karl Marx, Horace Greeley, and JFK, etc.
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When Karl Marx Worked For Horace Greeley (JFK mentoned this in 1961)

When Karl Marx Worked For Horace Greeley (JFK mentoned this in 1961)

American Heritage Magazine ^ | April 1957 | William Harlan Hale

Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 4:59:38 AM by No One Special

On Saturday morning, October 25, 1851, Horace Greeley’s New York Tribune , entrenched after a decade of existence as America’s leading Whig daily, appeared with twelve pages rather than its usual eight. The occasion was too noteworthy to be passed over without comment by the paper itself. So a special editorial was written—probably by Greeley’s young managing editor, the brisk, golden-whiskered Charles A. Dana—to point it out.

Besides a “press of advertisements.” the editorial ran, this morning’s enlarged paper contained “articles from some foreign contributors that are especially worthy of attention.” Among these were “a letter from Madame Belgioioso, upon the daily and domestic life of the Turks, and another upon Germany by one of the clearest and most vigorous writers that country has produced—no matter what may be the judgment of the critical upon his public opinions in the sphere of political and social philosophy.”

Turning the pages to see who this most clear and vigorous German might be, readers glanced past such items as a “Grand Temperance Rally in the igth Ward“; a Philadelphia story headlined “Cruelty of a Landlord—Brutality of a Husband”: a Boston campaign telegram announcing a Whig demonstration “in favor of Daniel Webster for President.” Then they reached a long article entitled “Revolution and Counter-Revolution,” over the by-line, Karl Marx.

“The first act of the revolutionary drama on the Continent of Europe has closed,” it began upon a somber organ tone; ”“The ‘powers that were’ before the hurricane of 1848………………………

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via When Karl Marx Worked For Horace Greeley (JFK mentoned this in 1961).

When Karl Marx Worked For Horace Greeley (JFK mentoned this in 1961)

 

“The first act of the revolutionary drama on the Continent of Europe has closed,” it began upon a somber organ tone; ”“The ‘powers that were’ before the hurricane of 1848, are again the ‘powers that be.’ ” But, contributor Marx went on, swelling to his theme, the second act of the movement was soon to come, and the interval before the storm was a good time to study the “general social state … of the convulsed nations” that led inevitably to such upheavals.

via When Karl Marx Worked For Horace Greeley (JFK mentoned this in 1961).

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http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2010/05/18/republican-party-red-from-the-start-by-alan-stang-2/

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