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Iwo Jima, The Story of Two Flag Raising’s (VIDEO)
Iwo Jima, The Story of Two Flag Raising’s (VIDEO)
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In a September 17, 1947 letter, U.S. Marine Corp. Sgt. Lou Lowery wrote, “You fellows did all the dirty work and the ones who were on Rosenthal’s picture got all the credit.” The letter’s recipient, Pfc. Raymond Jacobs, was among the Marines who raised the first flag atop Iwo Jimo, which Lou Lowery photographed. However, it was a second flag raising that occurred moments later, caught on film by Joe Rosenthal, that would capture the world’s imagination. His Pulitzer Prize winning photograph would become one of the most iconic symbols of the American determination in World War II and immortalize its subjects in memories of Americans for generations to come.
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……In perusing the book, Soldiers Of The Sea-The United States Marine Corps, 1775-1962, by Robert Debs Heinl, Jr., Colonel, USMC (The National Aviation Publishing Company of America, Baltimore, Maryland, 1991, page 513), I find an interesting remark by the author regarding the above.
“Under atomic attack, the World war II amphibious assault was finished. Normandy (more a ferrying operation than a true oceanic amphibious assault in any case) and Okinawa would never be repeated.”
Of course, there was another, at Inchon in 1950.
Although his mention of Normandy, above, is not much more than an aside comment, it does, I think, tend to define this topic within a more correct light than is usually perceived.
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I like Colonel Heinl’s insights into historical Marine Corps topics as he is always most thorough, and goes into topics usually left untouched by other writers. Then, too, his book sports a photo by S/Sgt Lou Lowery of the Iwo Jima Flag Raising; not the Joe Rosenthal version, mind you–the first flag raising that preceeded the “replacemnet flag” raising some time later, which was captured on motion-picture film by Sgt Genaust, and photographed by Rosenthal.
Gunny G’s….The Flag Raisings – Lest We Forget!
Of the two photos above, the one of the NYC firemen raising the flag at the site of the WTC after the 9/11 attack is now well known.
The other photo, however, is not so well known. That photo is one of the photos by Leatherneck magazine photographer, S/Sgt Lou Lowery, taken on Mount Suribachi, Iwo Jima on 23 February 1945, of the actual flag raising there at about 1020 on that morning.
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Lowery had accompanied 1/Lt. Harold G. Schrier and his 40-man combat patrol (Easy Company, 2ndBn, 28th Marines), up the hill to raise our national colors; this was the first time in 2,000 years that a foreign flag had been raised on the Japanese homeland.
Later that same day, a larger, “replacement” flag was substituted for the original, and was photographed at that time by Joe Rosenthal; and it was that photo that soon became famous as The Iwo Jima Flag Raising.
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A long-forgotten piece of America’s military history is going up for sale. The original smaller statue of the iconic raising of the US flag at Iwo Jima in 1945 is expected to fetch up to $1.8 million later this month at a New York auction dedicated to World War II artifacts. That such a statue even exists is news to all but the most ardent history buffs.
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Most Americans are familiar with Felix de Weldon‘s 1954 bronze version, the 32-foot-tall Marine Corps War Memorial in Arlington, Va. Less well-known is the 12-and-1/2-foot-tall statue created soon after the event.De Weldon, a young sculptor serving as an artist in the Navy, became instantly transfixed by an Associated Press image of the Feb. 19, 1945, flag planting, which would earn photographer Joe Rosenthal a Pulitzer Prize and resonate around the world.
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He modeled a wax sculpture of the photo to present to the chiefs of staff, and Congress soon called for construction of a large statue. Completed in just three months, de Weldon’s cast stone monument was erected in Washington, DC, in front of what is now the Federal Reserve Building on Constitution Avenue, and remained there until 1947.
Gunny G’s….The Flag Raisings – Lest We Forget!
Of the two photos above, the one of the NYC firemen raising the flag at the site of the WTC after the 9/11 attack is now well known.
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The other photo, however, is not so well known. That photo is one of the photos by Leatherneck magazine photographer, S/Sgt Lou Lowery, taken on Mount Suribachi, Iwo Jima on 23 February 1945, of the actual flag raising there at about 1020 on that morning.
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There has been much ado in the media and so forth regarding the massive Normandy “amphibious invasion,” Ike’s brilliant planning and execution, courage, heroism, etc.–and rightfully so.
The Normandy invasion is often regarded as the largest amphibious operation in history; some have even compared the amphibious landings in the Pacific as miniscule in comparison.
Gunny G: An Open Letter To Clint Eastwood (re Ray Jacobs, Iwo Jima, First Flag, Etc……
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I see by recent news articles that you
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1st Lt. Schrier with Ernest Ivy Thomas, Jr. (both seated) on Mount Suribachi at the first flag raising (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
I see by recent news articles that youare to be involved in a new film regarding the raising of our flag on Iwo Jima on February 23, 1945. I have wondered if this is going to be yet another of the usual party line accounts, or if this one will finally be an in-depth full story and truth of that event in our history.
Since it is you involved this time, I expect the latter could be the case, and I think it’s worth a shot to attempt to bring the following information to your attention in hopes that the story of Marine Ray Jacobs, and others, might finally be brought to the attention of the American public in a way that is worthy of both the event and the men themselves.
Gunny G’s….The Flag Raisings – Lest We Forget!
Of the two photos above, the one of the NYC firemen raising the flag at the site of the WTC after the 9/11 attack is now well known.The other photo, however, is not so well known. That photo is one of the photos by Leatherneck magazine photographer, S/Sgt Lou Lowery, taken on Mount Suribachi, Iwo Jima on 23 February 1945, of the actual flag raising there at about 1020 on that morning
.Lowery had accompanied 1/Lt. Harold G. Schrier and his 40-man combat patrol Easy Company, 2ndBn, 28th Marines, up the hill to raise our national colors; this was the first time in 2,000 years that a foreign flag had been raised on the Japanese homeland.Later that same day, a larger, “replacement” flag was substituted for the original, and was photographed at that time by Joe Rosenthal; and it was that photo that soon became famous as The Iwo Jima Flag Raising.
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Morning, 1020, on 23 February 1945, Mount Suribachi, Iwo Jima, our national colors raised for the first time ever over the Japanese Empire!
The combat patrol of 40-men of Easy Company 2/28, 5th Marine Division, led by 1/Lt Harold G. Schrier USMC. See Gunny G’s sites & forums for the story of Sgt Ray Jacobs, USMC (Ret.), who for 57 years went unrecognized as the radioman in Sgt Lou Lowery‘s series of photos of the actual flagraising on Iwo Jima (not the “replacement” flag photo shot by Joe Rosenthal later that same day to become almost instantly famous).
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Ray Jacobs: “.That’s when I discovered Dick Gaines’s Gunny G web site.Dick uses Lowery’s classic picture of the first flag raising on his home page.I e mailed him that I was the radioman in that picture.” (via ~ BLOGGER.GUNNY.G.1984+ ~ (BLOG & EMAIL))
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Japanese Iwo Jima eyewitness tells it in his own words
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Japanese Iwo Jima eyewitness tells it in his own words
MSN Japan News Manichi ^ | 20 February 2007 | As IndicatedPosted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 7:05:59 AM by gunnyg
“On the morning of February 23, he saw the first U.S. flag go up on Suribachi’s peak, followed shortly thereafter by the second, larger flag, the raising of which was immortalized at 1/400th second in Rosenthal‘s famous photograph. Akikusa’s descriptions up to this point correspond completely to American accounts of the event.
But what followed afterward appears to contradict the official U.S. Naval version of the battle.The following morning, as Akikusa relates in his book, “It was not the Stars & Stripes, but the Nissho-ki Japanese Sun flag that was waving.
Even though the peak was the target of attack from every direction on the island, I thought how hard they must have fought, and tears naturally came to my eyes.
The valiant fighters were defending Mt. Suribachi to the death.”The U.S. troops quickly hauled down the Japanese standard and replaced it with their own flag. But early the next morning, February 25, “the Nissho-ki was once again fluttering in the morning sunshine. It was a dazzling, beautiful sight.”
“The flag was a different one from the day before,” Akikusa recalls. “It was a smaller one, and square. It may have been improvised. The red circle in the center looked brownish, so it could have been blood.”"It may have been made out of a shirt. It moved me to tears. ‘Our guys are still up there,’ I thought.
‘They’re giving everything they’ve got. So will I.’”"I had hoped to see the Nissho-ki still flying the next morning, but that miracle was not to be,” Akikusa writes. “I said to myself, ‘Well, I guess that’s the end of it.’”…………………………..
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Japanese Iwo Jima eyewitness tells it in his own words
MSN Japan News Manichi ^ | 20 February 2007 | As IndicatedPosted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 7:05:59 AM by gunnyg
“On the morning of February 23, he saw the first U.S. flag go up on Suribachi’s peak, followed shortly thereafter by the second, larger flag, the raising of which was immortalized at 1/400th second in Rosenthal’s famous photograph. Akikusa’s descriptions up to this point correspond completely to American accounts of the event. But what followed afterward appears to contradict the official U.S. Naval version of the battle.
The following morning, as Akikusa relates in his book, “It was not the Stars & Stripes, but the Nissho-ki Japanese Sun flag that was waving.
Even though the peak was the target of attack from every direction on the island, I thought how hard they must have fought, and tears naturally came to my eyes. The valiant fighters were defending Mt. Suribachi to the death.”
Gunny G: Old Posts: Ray Jacobs, Suribachi, Iwo Jima,Flag Raising,Clint Eastwood, etc.
Wednesday, July 14, 2004
AN OPEN LETTER TO CLINT EASTWOOD….by Dick Gaines
An Open Letter To Clint Eastwood
I see by recent news articles that you are to be involved in a new film regarding the raising of our flag on Iwo Jima on February 23, 1945. I have wondered if this is going to be yet another of the usual party line accounts, or if this one will finally be an in-depth full story and truth of that event in our history.
Since it is you involved this time, I expect the latter could be the case, and I think it’s worth a shot to attempt to bring the following information to your attention in hopes that the story of Marine Ray Jacobs, and others, might finally be brought to the attention of the American public in a way that is worthy of both the event and the men themselves.
Jacobs is one of the known remaining survivors, along with Chuck Lindberg, of Lt. Schrier’s 40-man combat patrol up Suribachi that day to raise our colors over the Japanese homeland. I am referring here to the earlier first (so-called) flag raising–not the later raising of a replacement flag that was photographed by Joe Rosenthal (and was also shot by Sgt Bill Genaust on motion-picture film as well)–and which quickly, and incorrectly, became famous as the Iwo Jima flag raising well-known to all. The actual flag raising was photographed earlier that same day by Marine S/Sgt Lou Lowery, and is not nearly so well-known. Even today, nearly sixty years after the battle for Iwo Jima, a number of facts are still in question, and the emphasis of the flag raising itself remains on the replacement flag and not the original flag raised.
Gunny G: One Marine’s Remarks Regarding D-Day At Normandy, etc.
Sunday, June 06, 2004
ONE MARINE’S REMARKS REGARDING D-DAY, NORMANDY, ETC.
This weekend (June 2004) marks the 60th anniversary of the Normandy invasion of WW II. There has been much ado in the media and so forth regarding the massive Normandy “amphibious invasion,” Ike’s brilliant planning and execution, courage, heroism, etc.–and rightfully so.The Normandy invasion is often regarded as the largest amphibious operation in history; some have even compared the amphibious landings in the Pacific as miniscule in comparison.
In perusing the book, Soldiers Of The Sea-The United States Marine Corps, 1775-1962, by Robert Debs Heinl, Jr., Colonel, USMC (The National Aviation Publishing Company of America, Baltimore, Maryland, 1991, page 513), I find an interesting remark by the author regarding the above.
“Under atomic attack, the World war II amphibious assault was finished. Normandy (more a ferrying operation than a true oceanic amphibious assault in any case) and Okinawa would never be repeated.”
Of course, there was another amphibious landing, at Inchon in 1950.
Although Col. Heinl’s mention of Normandy, above, is not much more than an aside comment and not the main thrust of his point regarding amphibious assault in general, his remark does, I think, sum up and define the major difference between the Normandy Invasion and Marine Corps amphibious operations in the Pacific. And he does so in a very few words, and in a more correct light than is usually perceived.
I like Colonel Heinl’s insights into historical Marine Corps topics as he is always most thorough, and he delves into areas usually left untouched by other writers. Then, too, Heinl’s book sports a photo by S/Sgt Lou Lowery (Leatherneck magazine) of the Iwo Jima Flag Raising; not the Joe Rosenthal version, mind you, but the first flag raising that preceeded the “replacemnet flag” raising some time later, which was captured on motion-picture film by Sgt Genaust, and photographed by Rosenthal. But, then, this is an area of special interest to me.
And also, part of the book title says it all, and immediately gains my attention–”…1775-1962,” for it was those years that I find as most significant, and interesting for me.
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Richard Gaines
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1952-72
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I like the book, Soldiers Of The Sea, by Robert Debs Heinl, Jr., Colonel, USMC, for many reasons.
I personally consider it to be the most thorough and detailed account of the Marine Corps as it was. And, I also like it, if for no other reason, the opening pages contain the photograph by Lou Lowery of the actual flag raising at Mount Suribachi, Iwo Jima on 23 February 1945–not, mind you, the photograph by Joe Rosenthal of the “replacement” flag raising which occurred later that same morning.
And, the scope of Heinl’s book is from 1775 thru 1962–just as well, after 1962…well, things began to change in many ways for the old Corps soon after that. In any case, this author presents a most thorough and detailed account of Corps history with information on topics of interest that I’ve seen in no other writings.I was surprised to read that Colonel Heinl referred to the service hat, or campaign hat as it is more popularly known, as the “old slouch hat.” Prior to my reading of that I had thought of that term soley as a reference to the Australian campaign-type hat; and this caused me to look into the matter a bit further.
Ray Jacobs: “.That’s when I discovered Dick Gaines’s Gunny G web site.Dick uses Lowery’s classic picture of the first flag raising on his home page.I e mailed him that I was the radioman in that picture.”
Ray Jacobs: “.That’s when I discovered Dick Gaines’s Gunny G web site.Dick uses Lowery’s classic picture of the first flag raising on his home page.I e mailed him that I was the radioman in that picture.”
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Excerpts
“D + 4 on Iwo Jima was Friday,February 23,1945.At about 10:30 hours I was standing on the broad rim of the crater on top of Suribachi looking up at our colors snapping in the breeze._”
“Suddenly something extraordinary happened.We could clearly hear cheering from the Marines in combat on the plain of Iwo below us.They had spotted the flag and as the word spread more Marines joined in cheering our flag crowning Suribachi some 500 feet above.Soon the boats along the landing beaches and the ships at sea joined in blowing horns and whistles.It was a remarkable moment in Marine battle history but unfortunately soon to be forgotten.”
“I was PFC Raymond Jacobs,the radioman with F Company 2nd Battalion 28th Marines.About 40 minutes earlier I had been assigned to accompany an E Company combat patrol for the climb up Suribachi to supply communications between the patrol and battalion.”
“The patrol was led by Lt.Harold Shrier,E Company XO. At the top I watched as Lt.Shrier,Sgts.Henry Hansen and Ernest Thomas,Cpl.Charles Lindberg and Pvt Phil Ward secured the flag to a piece of Japanese water pipe.”
“Joined by PhM2c John Bradley they walked the flag and pipe over to the high ground,jammed it into the ground and raised the flag. Leatherneck cameraman Sgt.Lou Lowery had been with the patrol since it was formed.He faithfully followed the patrol taking pictures of the people and our movements every step of the way.In particular,he shot about a dozen pictures of the group of eight people most associated with the flag raising.Lowery’s pictures clearly show the faces of those people.”
“Yet for decades the official Marine Corps record of that event has failed to identify or misidentified five of the people pictured in Lowery’s photos? Obviously,given the time and place,no one was interested in gathering names for the record…but there were other forces at work.”
Lest We Forget: TWO PHOTOS: One Well Known…The Other, Not So Well Known…
Of the two photos above, the one of the NYC firemen raising the flag at the site of the WTC after the 9/11 attack is now well known.
The other photo, however, is not so well known. That photo is one of the photos by Leatherneck magazine photographer, S/Sgt Lou Lowery, taken on Mount Suribachi, Iwo Jima on 23 February 1945, of the actual flag raising there at about 1020 on that morning.
Lowery had accompanied 1/Lt. Harold G. Schrier and his 40-man combat patrol (Easy Company, 2ndBn, 28th Marines), up the hill to raise our national colors; this was the first time in 2,000 years that a foreign flag had been raised on the Japanese homeland.
Later that same day, a larger, “replacement” flag was substituted for the original, and was photographed at that time by Joe Rosenthal; and it was that photo that soon became famous as The Iwo Jima Flag Raising.
The WTC Flag picture, above, has recently appeared many times displayed together with Rosenthal’s photo, but I have never seen it in combination with the genuine article by Lowery, therefore, I think that this combination of photos above is more appropriate, and each photo complements the other most fully…
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Gunny G: That Flag On Suribachi – Japanese Witness Tells His Story….
Japanese Iwo Jima eyewitness tells it in his own words
MSN Japan News Manichi ^ | 20 February 2007 | As Indicated
Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 7:05:59 AM by gunnyg
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“On the morning of February 23, he saw the first U.S. flag go up on Suribachi’s peak, followed shortly thereafter by the second, larger flag, the raising of which was immortalized at 1/400th second in Rosenthal‘s famous photograph. Akikusa’s descriptions up to this point correspond completely to American accounts of the event. But what followed afterward appears to contradict the official U.S. Naval version of the battle.
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The following morning, as Akikusa relates in his book, “It was not the Stars & Stripes, but the Nissho-ki (Japanese Sun flag) that was waving. Even though the peak was the target of attack from every direction on the island, I thought how hard they must have fought, and tears naturally came to my eyes. The valiant fighters were defending Mt. Suribachi to the death.”
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