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I suppose I had wanted to begin this essay talking about a piece published back in January by Jay Bookman, “Second Amendment is Not License for Treason, Armed Revolt.”
I further suppose I had wanted to point out how, from a libertarian/market anarchist/voluntaryist perspective, it matters little what any amendment in any government document has to say about individual self-protection – it is an inherent and most obvious requisite of any human life.
The Manchurian Professor: Stealing America from the Socialists… “Libertarian minded people are pushing the idea that someone should never get a graduate degree in liberal arts or even attend college at all if possible.”
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The Manchurian Professor: Stealing America from the Socialists
THE FREEHOLD ^ | 04/30/2013 | JONATHAN DAVID BAIRD
Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2013 7:30:24 PM by KevinDavis
I am constantly seeing the same idea repeated in every blog I read, on every site I visit, and in many personal conversations.
Libertarian minded people are pushing the idea that someone should never get a graduate degree in liberal arts or even attend college at all if possible.
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If a person does get a degree it should be in the hard sciences or they should go to a trade school.
I for the most part agree with the reasoning behind this. In fact I think that Aaron Clarey makes a very valid point over and over again on his blog Captain Capitalism.
(As Always, See Reader Responses…) ~ The Law of Unintended Libertarian Consequences
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The Law of Unintended Libertarian Consequences
self | 3/31/13 | crusher
Posted on Monday, April 01, 2013 1:39:17 PM by crusher
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The Law of Unintended Libertarian Consequences
Over the past forty-five years since becoming politically aware, I have vacillated between conservatism and libertarian thinking in contemplating the world around me. I never feel completely at home with either camp when living out my own minarchist tendencies. It is of course oversimplification, but the former seem to think that everyone wants to be like us, and that the impulse for liberty is the yearning of the human spirit.
Evidently they are not paying attention to what is happening in the nation and around the world where dependency is in full march. On the other hand libertarians seem to relish their contempt for my own deeply held Christian faith and view debauchery not as an unfortunate side effect of freedom (my attitude) but rather celebrate hedonism as the whole point of liberty.
Kent’s “Hooligan Libertarian” Blog… “Those who believe in government might as well be feeding us all, and turning us all into, Soylent Green. Because the truth of the matter is that their actions grind up individuals to feed others.”
Those who believe in government might as well be feeding us all, and turning us all into, Soylent Green. Because the truth of the matter is that their actions grind up individuals to feed others.
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Your life is worth only what it can do for “society”. You are not worth defending if it means “allowing” you to have an effective gun, and you can be destroyed for daring to disobey.
Amazon.com: Liberalism Is a Mental Disorder: Savage Solutions (9781595550439): Michael Savage: Books
Love him or hate him, Dr. Savage is certainly an interesting and compelling writer. He’s back once again touting his “borders, language and culture” mantra from the previous books. This is supposedly the final of this series.
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The new spin this time takes his assault on liberalism to its ultimate and logical conclusion, asserting that extreme liberalism is in fact a mental disease–one in which logic no longer prevails yet emotion runs rampant.
The useful morons, as he calls them, flock like lemmings behind ideas that simply cannot work. He goes on to prove his points by citing hundreds of specific examples based upon remarkably well-founded research (the guy is an actual scientist after all).
It’s nice to see a little substance behind the political commentary.
He doesn’t just slam the left, as you might expect from the title, however. His vitriol takes a stab at the current administration’s handling of homeland security in general and our country’s borders in particular.
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Savage’s fiery witticisms such as “more Pattons (i.e., the general) and less patent leather,” “one dirty bomb ruining your whole day,” and “oil for illegals” aren’t really as funny as he thinks they are and frankly got pretty annoying after a while. Regardless, the underlying message is pretty well-written, consistent, and insightful.
Media Banned Video: This is the Message That They Don’t Want Anyone to Hear! | Libertarian
Before It’s NewsThe Media has banned this Rand Paul video and its message. What do you think of it?Related Stories
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Are liberals/Democrats demonstrably mentally ill?
Are liberals/Democrats demonstrably mentally ill?
Coach is Right ^ | 3/12/13 | Derrick Hollenbeck
Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2013 11:41:19 AM by Oldpuppymax
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We have heard liberalism aka Democrat-ism described as a mental illness. A little research seems to prove this observation. You need not be a goateed psychiatrist with a German accent to conclude liberals/Democrats are anti-social misfits. See for yourself, see how well liberalism/Democrat-ism fits into the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM) criteria for identifying the mentally maladjusted.
(Reader Response: Gunny G) ~ Rand Paul: Voters Ready for libertarian Republican
Dr RP’s son alright!
But is he another lesser of evils?????
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Time will tell, but on whose time/dime will he prove disprove?
In America’s case, it’s Bro Can Ya spare A Dime?
About | FlyoverPress.com ~ Explaining Liberty to Liberals, Democratic Socialists, Neo-Conservatives and Fascist Alike…
Explaining Liberty to Liberals, Democratic Socialists,
Neo-Conservatives and Fascist Alike
Albert J Nock summed it up with the title of his book, “Our Enemy the State.”
We believe that there is nothing the State does that a private property, natural law based, for profit society can not do better.
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We take every possible opportunity to demean the State and point out its crimes and ineffeciencies. There is no shortage of material.
Here is a summary of what we are all about.
As a staunch Anarcho-Capitalist and editor of the libertarian on-line news magazine, FlyoverPress.com, I am frequently confronted with all manner of political views. Thus, I find myself having to repeatedly explain the fundamentals of libertarian philosophy. Essentially, I have written the same essay thousands of times. This paper is an attempt to summarize and consolidate those essays and thereby save myself a great deal of time in the future.
For most of my life I have searched for a set of principles by which to live—ethical principles that could be applied to any and all human interactions. I have always rejected “situational ethics” as my intuition told me that there is such a thing as an “objective” ethic. But it eluded me for many years, until I discovered libertarianism.
Ronald Reagan the Libertarian…(Re conservative-libertarian)
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Here’s a wonderful quote from Reagan in 1975 from Reason magazine. If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories.
The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is. Now, I can’t say that I will agree with all the things that the present group who call themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians who are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy. I believe there are legitimate government functions.
There is a legitimate need in an orderly society for some government to maintain freedom or we will have tyranny by individuals. The strongest man on the block will run the neighborhood. We have government to insure that we don’t each one of us have to carry a club to defend ourselves.
Political Partisan Psychological Disorders | Veterans Today
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Before one can understand the nature of partisan or party politics, a correct comprehension of The Choice of Ideology is essential.
Consistent with the historic legacy of the founding of this Nation is a lament that most inhabitants are oblivious to our ingenious heritage and purpose of the American Revolution.
Paying attention to politics matter of self-defense… (“…about libertarianism; the politics, or “anti-politics” as the case may be, of liberty….”)
Every day, in a variety of places, I write about libertarianism; the politics, or “anti-politics” as the case may be, of liberty. Everything I am is libertarian.
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That shouldn’t scare you; it just means I will not steal from you and I won’t use force against you unless it is in self-defense, nor will I have other people do this dirty work on my behalf.
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Meaningless Words in Politics by Ron Paul (“When You Hear a Politician Think of George Orwell.”)
Listen to Ron Paul
As we enter the fall political season, we will hear a great deal of rhetoric from both major political parties and their
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many candidates for office. It’s important for us to remember, however, that words can be made meaningless by misuse or overuse. And when we as citizens allow politicians to obscure the truth by distorting words, we diminish ourselves and our nation.?
The Mental Illness of Our Political Class… (“While Michael Savage turned the phrase Liberalism is a Mental Disorder, I would take that a step further. “)
JasonCharleston wrote: Sociopaths pay off the government so they can act dishonestly. They are always going to find someone to pay off in government to work dishonestly.
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This should be completely obvious after the Obama administration. Apparently, not for some.- Washington and Wall Street are Broken; Here’s Proof
Dear Jason,
I think you might be on to something.
While Michael Savage turned the phrase Liberalism is a Mental Disorder, I would take that a step further.
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Gunny G: Real Americans (Not AINOs) Are Fed Up w/the BS!…Dr Ron Paul Should Run Third Party Enabling America An Actual Choice !!!!!
Judge Napolitano Says Libertarianvoters Now will Vote Romney…
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I don’t think so–maybe the AINOs–lotsa folks do NOT think so!
(“I understand liberals, and I don’t want them to succeed. The country suffers when liberals succeed. That is a belief that’s embedded in my heart. It’s never gonna change. Nobody’s gonna change my mind on that because I don’t lie to myself.”) Rush: Barack Obama: A Unique Fraud…
BEGIN TRANSCRIPT
RUSH: Folks, I want to talk a little bit here about Obama for a second in a universal kind of way. What we have here and what I knew was the case back on January 16th, 2009, when I said, “I hope he fails,” I knew this was coming, ’cause I know liberals, and I heard enough of what Obama had said.
We played the sound bites on this program from the early 2000s, and the things he had said on the campaign trail. It was patently obvious that he was just another radical liberal politician. It’s all he was. I understand liberals, and I don’t want them to succeed. The country suffers when liberals succeed. That is a belief that’s embedded in my heart. It’s never gonna change. Nobody’s gonna change my mind on that because I don’t lie to myself.
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The 30-Day Reading List That Will Lead You to Becoming a Knowledgeable Libertarian by Robert Wenzel
The list below will not make anyone a scholar in libertarianism or an expert in Austrian Economics, it is designed to introduce to the busy individual the essence of libertarianism. There are 30 articles listed below.
If one reads one article, slowly and carefully, per day, by the end of 30 days one should have a very strong grasp of libertarian principles and a basic understanding of Austrian economics. The list contains articles on a variety of topics, but does not cover all possible libertarian topics. More than anything it provides an overview of libertarianism and how libertarians think about issues of the day.
The Daily Bell – Robin Koerner on Blue Republicans and Why Ron Paul Remains the Hope for the US’s Future
The Daily Bell is pleased to present this exclusive interview with Robin Koerner (left).
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Introduction: Robin Koerner is an influential political journalist who coined the term “Blue Republican.” He also runs WatchingAmerica.com, a volunteer force some 400 strong that finds and translates news and views about the USA from all over the world. This interview was conducted prior to the announcement that Congressman and Presidential Candidate Ron Paul (whom Koerner backs) would not further contest various states in the Republican primary. However, Ron Paul has not given any indication he is actually dropping out of the race and Koerner’s statements below thus stand as stated (unless Ron Paul issues further clarifications) without need of further clarification.
Daily Bell: Give us some background on yourself.
Robin Koerner: I am in my mid-30s and born in south of England. I studied physics and philosophy at Peterhouse, Cambridge University and have traveled quite extensively. I’m now a permanent resident of the USA (living in Seattle), with the intention of becoming a citizen. I am also the founder and publisher of Watching America.com and probably best known in the USA today for coining the expression “Blue Republican” to refer to those former non-Republicans of more liberal sensibility who are switching to the Republican party specifically to support Ron Paul.
Daily Bell: When did you decide to get involved as an alternative media political commentator?
Alias Marx and Alinsky…Family Security Matters
Calling socialists liberals is as deceptive as calling goose gizzards foie gras. It fools no one but the epistemologically blinkered. The term liberal allows liberals to pose as concerned, generous and forward-thinking individuals and to act under what was once an honorable term for anyone who advocated or endorsed liberty. And as any well-read American knows, liberals do not advocate liberty. Quite the opposite.
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The subject here is the devolution of the term liberal, not its evolution.
Even out-and-out communists are called liberals. President Barack Obama is called a “liberal.” The late Senator Ted Kennedy was called a “liberal.” Barney Frank is a liberal. Obama’s cabinet is largely staffed by liberals (unless outed, as self-confessed communist Van Jones was). Communism and socialism still carry a bad reputation, so everyone, including the Main Stream Media, and even well-intentioned pundits and commentators friendly to liberty, use the term liberal.
Victor Davis Hanson: “All Fall Down”
Victor Davis Hanson: “All Fall Down”
PJ Media ^ | 05/06/2012 | Victor Davis Hanson
Posted on Sunday, May 06, 2012 8:34:43 PM by Eccl 10:2
The temple of postmodern liberalism was rocked these last few weeks, as a number of supporting columns and buttresses simply crashed, leaving the entire edifice wobbling.
Is the ‘Hunger Games’ Trilogy a Libertarian Manifesto? by Joshua Steimle
I’m about two hours away from finishing Mocking Jay, the last book of the Hunger Games trilogy. I wasn’t planning on reading the books, but once I got wind that there were some libertarian themes contained therein I figured…welllll, ok. So, do the books make up some sort of libertarian manifesto? One might think so based on this, this, this, this, and this.
My take? I was pleasantly surprised. I kept waiting for the typical progressive themes of “Yeah, these big-government types over here are bad, but these big-government types over here are good.” Instead, you get the pleasing “These big-government types over here are bad, and these others that you thought would be good? Well, maybe they aren’t any good either.” There does seem to be a pervading message that if all these power-hungry leaders would just leave people alone, they could take care of themselves and be just fine, and “just fine” would be worlds better than where they’re at.
Employment and Franchise Opportunities – Immediate Openings for Prostitutes and Pimps
I, for one, support the recent Ontario Supreme Court’s decision to legalize brothels. Perhaps all of Canada will soon embrace Ontario’s newest and undisputedly “hottest” government sanctioned industry? And it’s a good thing the decision in Ontario was left to a handful of unelected, unaccountable judges since consulting with the people through their elected legislature would have surely hampered “progress”.
Governing through elected representatives is really a nuisance these days in Canada; so many rules of order and far too many debates and procedures. Besides, why should the peasantry expect to have a say in matters that define their culture or that affect their daily lives? Rather, in Canada, parliaments and legislatures are quaint and charming notions, but in today’s modern, progressive societies, democracy is simply too old fashioned to keep pace. It’s infinitely more efficient and expeditious to legislate from the bench through the judiciary. As a result, now that Liberalism and moral relativism have emancipated us from our awful, conservative values and our traditions of high moral and community standards, members of our society are now free to openly pursue any activities of sexual desire as long as their credit rating is good.
Hard Truths About the Culture War – Robert Bork
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Moral liberalism and the decadence of culture.
What began to concern me more and more were the clear signs of rot and decadence germinating within American society-a rot and decadence that was no longer the consequence of liberalism but was the actual agenda of contemporary liberalism. . . . Sector after sector of American life has been ruthlessly corrupted by the liberal ethos. It is an ethos that aims simultaneously at political and social collectivism on the one hand, and moral anarchy on the other. -Irving Kristol, “My Cold War“
Equivocation has never been Irving Kristol’s long suit. About the fact of rot and decadence there can be no dispute, except from those who deny that such terms have meaning, and who are, for that reason, major contributors to rot and decadence. We are accustomed to lamentations about American crime rates, the devastation wrought by drugs, rising illegitimacy, the decline of civility, and the increasing vulgarity of popular entertainment. But the manifestations of American cultural decline are even more widespread, ranging across virtually the entire society, from the violent underclass of the inner cities to our cultural and political elites, from rap music to literary studies, from pornography to law, from journalism to scholarship, from union halls to universities. Wherever one looks, the traditional virtues of this culture are being lost, its vices multiplied, its values degraded-in short, the culture itself is unraveling.
What Should Libertarians do About Politics? (To fight or not to fight at Cato)
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Recent momentous events at Cato have drudged up some age-old questions about libertarianism and politics: how should libertarians interact with politics and political candidates? Should libertarians compromise “full freedom” by promoting half-measures in the form of less-than-perfect candidates who are better than the alternatives on some matters but perhaps worse on others?
Sibelius Spills the Beans (Liberals have to constantly hide what they believe to get votes)
Liberals accuse conservatives of using secret signals that only conservatives can hear — dog whistles — to send racist messages. These accusations are in reality a reflection of what liberals think rather than accurate assessments of what conservatives are saying, like the pimpled teen who thinks that nearly everything is a dirty joke.
Liberals, on the other hand, constantly have to hide what they believe in order to get votes — getting rid of blacks by making abortion easily available in minority neighborhoods and advocating socialism are not winning campaign positions these days. That’s why almost every liberal runs for re-election as a conservative.
Fortunately, liberals are sufficiently un-self-aware as to let their true beliefs show through their verbiage on occasion — an unconscious dog whistle, if you will.
Worship of the Mob – Ben O’Neill – Mises Daily
Several months ago, I was visiting some friends in Sydney and was invited to the house of a friend-of-a-friend for some late night drinks and a chat. My host and his friends were left-wing bohemian types and had been informed by my friend that I am a “free-market anarchist,” or something like that. They found this notion intriguing, and so they quizzed me on what that means, and this naturally led into a discussion of the merits of a free market versus a democracy.
(“In defining conservatism, Reagan said: “If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism.”) ~ Conservatism in the United States – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
…..In defining conservatism, Reagan said: “If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism.
I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals—if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories.
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The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.”[153]
Reagan’s views on government were influenced by Thomas Jefferson, especially his hostility to strong central governments.[154] “We’re still Jefferson’s children,” he declared in 1987. “Freedom is not created by Government, nor is it a gift from those in political power. It is, in fact, secured, more than anything else, by limitations placed on those in Government”.[155][156]…..
Liberalism is a Psychology…
A liberal or a leftist; I use the terms interchangeably, is a person who only cares about politics to the extent that doing so makes him or her feel good, or avoid feeling bad, due both to external and internal factors.
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Their motivations can include things like a desire to feel intelligent, moral, noble, or unique, as well as a desire for peer acceptance or reverence, and aversion to being ostracized, among many other things.Now, before I go any further, I have to draw a distinction between liberals and the people who agree with them.
GUNNY G: NOT ALL WHO CALL THEMSELVES PATRIOTS, CONSERVATIVES, ETC. ARE ! (See EXCERPT HERE)
Governor Reagan, you have been quoted in the press as saying that you’re doing a lot of speaking now on behalf of the philosophy of conservatism and libertarianism. Is there a difference between the two?
REAGAN: If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories.
The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.
Now, I can’t say that I will agree with all the things that the present group who call themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians who are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy.
Why Be Libertarian? by Murray N. Rothbard
Why be libertarian, anyway? By this we mean, what’s the point of the whole thing? Why engage in a deep and lifelong commitment to the principle and the goal of individual liberty? For such a commitment, in our largely unfree world, means inevitably a radical disagreement with, and alienation from, the status quo, an alienation which equally inevitably imposes many sacrifices in money and prestige. When life is short and the moment of victory far in the future, why go through all this?
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Prison Planet.com » Libertarianism and Americanism
Given that in the main the American political system is still the closest to protecting varieties of individual liberty – regarding speech, commerce, religion, due process, etc. – most of those who peddle political ideas want to hitch their wagon to the ideas of the American Founders.
Socialists, conservatives, populists, agrarians and even communists have laid claim to being the proper carriers of the American political flag. Libertarians, of course, are no different. They hold that it is their political philosophy that most fully realizes the vision first put into practice by the American Founders and Framers. And with their current role in America’s political life, it would be useful to see if they or the others are right.
GUNNY G: IS “STATES RIGHTS” REALLY THE REMEDY TO BIG OPPRESSIVE GUBMINT?
OK, I’m for “states rights” alright, and that’s from full “independent” at that, and I lean/no, lunge libertarian (small r) but…
who does not see that should the fed gubmint disappear altogether even, that full oppression slack not be then taken up by the “states” with vigor ?????
After all, this ain’t Heaven, and human nature and all that…
For me, there’s the bugaboo in the ointment!
Ronald Reagan – A Time for Choosing
Ronald Reagan – A Time for Choosing
VIDEO
“THE SPEECH”
27:47 – 4 years ago
A Time for Choosing, also known as “The Speech”, was presented on a number of speaking occasions during the 1964 U.S. presidential election campaign by Ronald Reagan on behalf of Republican candidate Barry
REAGAN On CONSERVATISM and LIBERTARIANISM…Inside Ronald Reagan – Reason Magazine
REAGAN On CONSERVATISM and LIBERTARIANISM…Inside Ronald Reagan – Reason Magazine
REASON: Governor Reagan, you have been quoted in the press as saying that you’re doing a lot of speaking now on behalf of the philosophy of conservatism and libertarianism. Is there a difference between the two?
REAGAN: If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories.
The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.
Now, I can’t say that I will agree with all the things that the present group who call themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians who are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy.
I believe there are legitimate government functions. There is a legitimate need in an orderly society for some government to maintain freedom or we will have tyranny by individuals. The strongest man on the block will run the neighborhood. We have government to insure that we don’t each one of us have to carry a club to defend ourselves. But again, I stand on my statement that I think that libertarianism and conservatism are travelling the same path.
REASON: Governor, could you give us some examples of what you would consider to be proper functions of government?
REAGAN: Well,…..
EXCERPT
via Inside Ronald Reagan – Reason Magazine.
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Posted by Gunny G at Tuesday, October 18, 2011
2 comments:
Gunny G said…
Robert taft, Conservative…
http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2011/10/18/robert-taft-misremembered-conservative-frumforum/
11:57 AM
Gunny G said…
Re Libertaria/Conservative/Jeffersonian…
Tom Dilorenzo…
http://gunnyg.blogspot.com/2011/10/real-dilorenzo-southern-partisan.html
REAGAN On CONSERVATISM and LIBERTARIANISM…Inside Ronald Reagan – Reason Magazine
REASON: Governor Reagan, you have been quoted in the press as saying that you’re doing a lot of speaking now on behalf of the philosophy of conservatism and libertarianism. Is there a difference between the two?
REAGAN: If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.
Now, I can’t say that I will agree with all the things that the present group who call themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians who are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy. I believe there are legitimate government functions. There is a legitimate need in an orderly society for some government to maintain freedom or we will have tyranny by individuals. The strongest man on the block will run the neighborhood. We have government to insure that we don’t each one of us have to carry a club to defend ourselves. But again, I stand on my statement that I think that libertarianism and conservatism are travelling the same path.
REASON: Governor, could you give us some examples of what you would consider to be proper functions of government?
REAGAN: Well, the first and most important thing is that government exists to protect us from each other. Government exists, of course, for the defense of the nation, and for the defense of the rights of the individual. Maybe we don’t all agree on some of the other accepted functions of government, such as fire departments and police departments–again the protection of the people….
EXCERPT
Inside Ronald Reagan – Reason Magazine…..
Inside Ronald Reagan – Reason Magazine
Inside Ronald Reagan – Reason Magazine:
REASON: Governor Reagan, you have been quoted in the press as saying that you’re doing a lot of speaking now on behalf of the philosophy of conservatism and libertarianism.
Is there a difference between the two?
REAGAN: If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories.
The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is……
EXCERPT
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Posted by Gunny G
via ~ BLOGGER.GUNNY.G ~ YES.1984+ IS UPON US.RIGHT NOW! : Inside Ronald Reagan – Reason Magazine.
Gunny G: Reader Response: Ron Paul and the Neoliberal Reeducation Campaign
Ron Paul and the Neoliberal Reeducation Campaign
Ron Paul and the Neoliberal Reeducation Campaign:
READER RESPONSE: Gunny G:
Like goldwater b4 him…
Reagan Interview, July 1975, using “libertarian” to describe his political philosophy (GREAT)
reason.com ^ | July 1975 | Reason Interview
Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 7:17:19 AM by pending
REAGAN: If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories.
The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.
MORE…
Posted by Gunny G at Wednesday, August 24, 2011
via BLOGGER.GUNNY.G.1984(+): Ron Paul and the Neoliberal Reeducation Campaign.
Ron Paul’s liberty will give us death
This author makes me want to puke.
Ron Paul may not be an ideal candidate, but many of his principles could save our party and our nation.
Those Freepers who express contempt for him because of the aspects they disagree with disgust me.
Never forget:
“If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.
“Now, I can’t say that I will agree with all the things that the present group who call themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians who are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy. I believe there are legitimate government functions. There is a legitimate need in an orderly society for some government to maintain freedom or we will have tyranny by individuals. The strongest man on the block will run the neighborhood. We have government to insure that we don’t each one of us have to carry a club to defend ourselves. But again, I stand on my statement that I think that libertarianism and conservatism are travelling the same path.”
-Ronald Reagan, 1975
A Critical Review of Libertarianism
Free RepublicBrowse · Search Pings · Mail Bloggers & PersonalTopics · Post ArticleSkip to comments.A Critical Review of LibertarianismOff Grid Blogger ^ | February 7, 2011 | Off Grid BloggerPosted on Monday, February 07, 2011 2:01:08 PM by grumpa
This is the conclusion of our 5-part series on libertarianism. You may receive the other 4 by emailing us at offgridblogger@msn.com.We cannot miss the similarities between libertarianism and liberalism. It is not accidental that they have the same root word. Among the similarities is that both systems are at war with God—as are communism, humanism, and other non-theistic worldviews.
As we pointed out last week in our blogmail, not all libertarians are atheists. Many are agnostic. History teaches that tyranny begins with eliminating God.Excerpt Read more at offgridblogger.wordpress.com …
What Libertarians Misunderstand
Recently, in a piece about the dangers inherent in libertarianism, I pointed out that libertarians, by applying their live-and-let-live philosophy to the moral sphere as well as the governmental, do nothing to maintain the societal moral framework that enables people to govern themselves from within and that ensures that Big Brother won’t have to do so from without. I recommend you read the piece.
Not surprisingly, this provoked some angry responses and fallacious counter-arguments. This article is my response to them.I will start with the one thing that characterizes libertarians as much as anything else:
a misunderstanding about the nature of law.
To illustrate the point, consider the commentary of “End the Fed,” a “devout libertarian” who posted under my first piece. He wrote,I don’t spend a lot of time dwelling on whether people should smoke crack or have abortions. My choice is drug free. My choice is not to have abortions. And if you want to do those things, I won’t criticize or judge you.I simply accept the fact that those things exist whether I want them to or not.
OK, now imagine if I said,…
Excerpt
A Conspiracy Against Ourselves by John Taylor Gatto
Schools got the way they were at the start of the twentieth century as part of a vast, intensely engineered social revolution in which all major institutions were overhauled to work together in harmonious managerial efficiency.
Ours was to be an improvement on the British system, which once depended on a shared upper-class culture for its coherence. Ours would be subject to a rational framework of science, law, instruction, and mathematically derived merit. When Morgan reorganized the American marketplace into a world of cooperating trusts at the end of the nineteenth century, he created a business and financial subsystem to interlink with the subsystem of government, the subsystem of schooling, and other subsystems to regulate every other aspect of national life. None of this was conspiratorial.
Each increment was rationally defensible. But the net effect was the destruction of small-town, small-government America, strong families, individual liberty, and a lot of other things people weren’t aware they were trading for a regular corporate paycheck.
A huge price had to be paid for business and government efficiency, a price we still pay in the quality of our existence. Part of what kids gave up was the prospect of being able to read very well, a historic part of the American genius. Instead, school had to train them for their role in the new overarching social system.
But spare yourself the agony of thinking of this as a conspiracy. It was and is a fully rational transaction, the very epitome of rationalization engendered by a group of honorable men, all honorable men – but with decisive help from ordinary citizens, from almost all of us as we gradually lost touch with the fact that being followers instead of leaders, becoming consumers in place of producers, rendered us incompletely human.
It was a naturally occurring conspiracy, one which required no criminal genius. The real conspirators were ourselves. When we sold our liberty for the promise of automatic security, we became like children in a conspiracy against growing up, sad children who conspire against their own children, consigning them over and over to the denaturing vats of compulsory state factory schooling.
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BIG-GOVERNMENT LIBERTARIANS
BIG-GOVERNMENT LIBERTARIANS
We have been all too familiar in recent years with the phenomenon of Big Government Conservatives, of people who have betrayed and seemingly forgotten their principles and their heritage in a quest for power and pelf, for respectability and for access to the corridors of power, people who have moved inside the Beltway both in body and in spirit.
Not all of us however are familiar with an allied and far more oxymoronic development: the acceleration and takeover in the last few years by Big Government Libertarians, who now almost exclusively dominate the libertarian movement.
The weird thing about Big Government Libertarianism, of course, is that it clearly violates the very nature and point of libertarianism: devotion to the ideal of either no government at all or government that is minuscule and strictly confined to defense of person and property: to what the ex-libertarian philosopher Robert Nozick called “ultra-minimal” government, or what the great paleolibertarian writer H.L. Mencken called “government that barely escapes being no government at all.”
How extensive has been this development, and how in the world could such a thing happen?
Why Libertarians Oppose War by Jacob H. Huebert
Why Libertarians Oppose War
Recently by J. H. Huebert: Vouchers Are Not Libertarian
This article is excerpted from Libertarianism Today, by Jacob H. Huebert.
Libertarianism and war are not compatible. One reason why should be obvious: In war, governments commit legalized mass-murder. In modern warfare especially, war is not just waged among voluntary combatants, but kills, maims, and otherwise harms innocent people. Then, of course, wars must be funded through taxes, which are extracted from U.S. citizens by force – a form of legalized theft, as far as libertarians are concerned. And, historically, the U.S. has used conscription – legalized slavery – to force people to fight and die. In addition, an interventionist foreign policy makes civilians targets for retaliation, so governments indirectly cause more violence against their own people when they become involved in other countries’ affairs. Plus, war is always accompanied by many other new restrictions on liberty, many of which are sold as supposedly temporary wartime measures but then never go away.
War Involves Mass Murder
Today, people mostly accept that innocent civilians die in wars, and it doesn’t seem to bother them too much as long as it’s happening to other people on the other side of the world. The military calls this “collateral damage,” and the American media mostly ignores it, but libertarians call attention to it and call it what it is: mass murder.
Historically, war didn’t necessarily involve killing innocents on a large scale. War was always terrible and undesirable, but by the eighteenth century, Europe had developed rules of “civilized warfare,” and wars were generally fought only between armies, with civilians off-limits. From the libertarian perspective, this type of war is not so much of a problem; if people choose to engage in mortal combat with each other, that may be foolish, self-destructive, and even immoral, but it’s not aggression in the libertarian sense. (Of course, those wars still have objectionable ends – generally, the right to dominate a particular territory – but at least the means aren’t so offensive.)
Modern warfare is another story. Modern governments, including but not limited to democracies, claim to represent “the people,” so modern wars are seen as being fought, not just between rulers, but between whole peoples. By this way of thinking, it’s not two governments fighting; it’s “all of us versus all of them.” This is how politicians and some conservative pundits talk: either you are rooting “for America” or you “want America to lose” – they don’t distinguish between the country’s government and its citizens. If their view is correct – if governments really do represent the people – then it follows (more easily) that the people are fair game in war.
“I don’t believe in a government that protects us from ourselves.” – Reagan has taken to using the term “libertarian” (or “libertarian-conservative”) to describe his political philosophy”
http://www.reason.com
http://www.reason.com/news/show/29318.html
Inside Ronald Reagan
A Reason Interview
July 1975 Print Edition
“I don’t believe in a government that protects us from ourselves.”
Those of us concerned about liberty have had good reason of late to be interested in Ronald Reagan. Increasingly, California’s former governor has been turning up in first place among Republican figures in political opinion polls, among Independents as well as Republicans. In addition, in recent months Reagan has taken to using the term “libertarian” (or “libertarian-conservative”) to describe his political philosophy. All of which naturally made us interested in taking a closer look at the man and his ideas. Thanks to the efforts of the late Ned Hutchinson (a former Reagan aide), REASON was able to obtain time out of Reagan’s busy schedule for him to be interviewed by Editor Manuel S. Klausner.
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