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Gunny G: “SULLY,” RAY JACOBS, and “MAC” McCULLOUGH….

Those of you on my e-mail list and who read my blogs will recognize the name of Ken “Mac” McCullough and his recent pic holding his old WW II Gung Ho knife from his Carlson Raider days.

Back about 1998/97, when I first got online, I pursued topics of Marine Corps history such as Carlson’s Raiders, the Flags of Suribachi, etc. At that time there was little such in-depth information online; so I did it the old fashioned-way–I did it myself.

Since then the Marine Raiders organization and Dan Marsh came along and put up much more sophisticated sites on the raiders. And, then, a couple years or so later I got an e-mail from Marine Ray Jacobs who had been the radioman in the Lou Lowery photos of that first flag raising on Suribachi. And, during those years, Dr. R.E. Sullivan, Col USMC Ret, also contacted me regarding both of us having served at Camp Fuji, Japan back in the ’50s. “Sully” is a prolific writer of all things Old Corps, and we have shared many online discussions together these last many years. He is a WW II, China, Korea, and Vietnam Marine.

I have been very fortunate in my years online having interacted with such Marines as Mac, Ray, and “Sully,” all of whom greatly added to my knowledge of USMC historical topics. And there have been many others who I have neglected to mention here, but whose names and stories appear here and there throughout my webpages.

First Flag On Suribachi – The THREE Flag Raisers!: Boyoboy, you hit the nail on the head on that one… (via ~ BLOGGER.GUNNY.G.1984+ ~ (BLOG & EMAIL))

Bob–you are absolutely Right! I did miss the mark thinking the public gives a damn about any of this–except for a few individuals, and they know who they are, and they are the ones who make it all worthwhile. The fact is John Q. Public is so steeped, at this point, in their socialism, brainwashing, etc.–that the founding father's would better watch their arses if they were around today. But, these sites are browsed mostly by Marines, and it wa … Read More

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First Flag On Suribachi – The THREE Flag Raisers!: Boyoboy, you hit the nail on the head on that one…

Bob–you are absolutely Right!

I did miss the mark thinking the public gives a damn about any of this–except for a few individuals, and they know who they are, and they are the ones who make it all worthwhile.

The fact is John Q. Public is so steeped, at this point, in their socialism, brainwashing, etc.–that the founding father’s would better watch their arses if they were around today.

But, these sites are browsed mostly by Marines, and it was primarily to these younger Marines I was addressing my post. And these younger Marines, as always, are reflective of not only the Corps, but the particular society they sprang from–likely much unlike yours and to a lesser extent even mine. Likewise, when I referred to my “heroes” I was meaning all of our WW II heroes! Although I was at that point referring directly to those of the 40-man (so-called) patrol!

I have always expected too much, not necessarily in what I expected from others in what I thought they should do and don’t do, but frustrated, as you mention, over the things that others do and shouldn’t do.

I am referring to the coverup (there’s no other word for it, let’s not half-step here). The exigencies of the combat situation would have, in short time, corrected themselves left to those on the scene, e.g. that there were two flags, the correct identification of just who was where, when, etc. The fly in the ointment was when people knew they better watch out for what they say so’s not to step on somebody’s toes

topside.

Please excuse my rant, I have been stepping on toes for years, not that it ever got me anywhere, but al least I know why I am the way I am. There’s just something in me that will never bend in principle for what I see as so wrong that all of us must see it.

Again, I have mentioned the story many times of General Puller at S/Sgt McKeon’s court-martial in 1956 at PISC. In response to questions, he pointed out that espirit de corps means LOYALTY, and, he said that loyalty works both up and DOWN!

Thanks for responding, I do appreciate that.

Best

Dick

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Morning, 1020, on 23 February 1945, Mount Suribachi, Iwo Jima, our national colors raised for the first time ever over the Japanese Empire! The combat patrol of 40-men of Easy Company 2/28, 5th Marine Division, led by 1/Lt Harold G. Schrier USMC. See Gunny G's sites & forums for the story of Sgt Ray Jacobs, USMC (Ret.), who for 57 years went unrecognized as the radioman in Sgt Lou Lowery's series of photos of the actual flagraising on Iwo Jim … Read More

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Morning, 1020, on 23 February 1945, Mount Suribachi, Iwo Jima, our national colors raised for the first time ever over the Japanese Empire!

The combat patrol of 40-men of Easy Company 2/28, 5th Marine Division, led by 1/Lt Harold G. Schrier USMC. See Gunny G’s sites & forums for the story of Sgt Ray Jacobs, USMC (Ret.), who for 57 years went unrecognized as the radioman in Sgt Lou Lowery‘s series of photos of the actual flagraising on Iwo Jima (not the “replacement” flag photo shot by Joe Rosenthal later that same day to become almost instantly famous).

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FIRST FLAG ON SURIBACHI – THE IWO JIMA FLAG RAISING

It was last May when I first learned of Sgt Raymond Jacobs and the part he played as a member of the 40-man combat patrol led by Lt. Schrier up Mount Suribachi on the morning of 23 February 1945. That was the patrol that raised our Stars and Stripes on Iwo Jima!

I had just posted a picture of that First Flag Raising on one of my websites, and it was not long until I received a response from Ray stating that he was in that picture. Knowing that Cpl Charles “Chuck” Lindberg was recognized as the only living survivor of the flag-raising, I immediately e-mailed him back requesting more information. I soon heard back again from Ray, and I began a bit of research into several books I have on Iwo Jima, the flag raisng, etc. I also forwarded this information on to Ray “Doc” Fornof, in Hawaii, as I knew he was at that time involved in conversations with Chuck Lindberg regarding this most interesting topic. Fornof advised that he was much interested and that he would follow up on this with both Jacobs and Lindberg. And he kept me posted on their exchanges of information. Since that time, in addition to information provided by both Jacobs and Lindberg, I have become aware, through many readings, of numerous interesting and even shocking facts regarding this subject.

Ray Jacobs had advised me that on the morning of 23 February he, a radioman, had been watching a reconnaissance patrol led by Sgt Sherman Watson as it made its way back down Suribachi. At about that time, Jacobs received a call from battalion ordering him to rendezvous with Lt. Schrier who was to lead the 40-man combat patrol up Suribachi and raise our colors. Jacobs was to accompany the patrol as its radioman. Pfc (at that time) Jacobs was a member of Fox Company, 2d Battalion, 28th Marines, 5th Marine Division, and the other patrol members were from Easy Company, therefore the other members of the patrol didn’t know Jacobs and Jacobs had never met the others before. Chuck Lindberg has indicated that there had been a radioman with them on the patrol, but that he didn’t know his name.

After the flag had been raised

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Ray Jacobs: ".That's when I discovered Dick Gaines's Gunny G  web site.Dick uses Lowery's classic picture of the first flag raising on his home page.I e mailed him that I was the radioman in that picture." ***** Excerpts "D + 4 on Iwo Jima was Friday,February 23,1945.At about 10:30 hours I was standing on the broad rim of the crater on top of Suribachi looking up at our colors snapping in the breeze._" "Suddenly something extraordinary happened.W … Read More

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FIRST FLAG ON SURIBACHI – THE IWO JIMA FLAG RAISING

It was last May when I first learned of Sgt Raymond Jacobs and the part he played as a member of the 40-man combat patrol led by Lt. Schrier up Mount Suribachi on the morning of 23 February 1945.

That was the patrol that raised our Stars and Stripes on Iwo Jima! I had just posted a picture of that First Flag Raising on one of my websites, and it was not long until I received a response from Ray stating that he was in that picture.

Knowing that Cpl Charles “Chuck” Lindberg was recognized as the only living survivor of the flag-raising, I immediately e-mailed him back requesting more information. I soon heard back again from Ray, and I began a bit of research into several books I have on Iwo Jima, the flag raisng, etc.

I also forwarded this information on to Ray “Doc” Fornof, in Hawaii, as I knew he was at that time involved in conversations with Chuck Lindberg regarding this most interesting topic. Fornof advised that he was much interested and that he would follow up on this with both Jacobs and Lindberg. And he kept me posted on their exchanges of information. Since that time, in addition to information provided by both Jacobs and Lindberg, I have become aware, through many readings, of numerous interesting and even shocking facts regarding this subject

Ray Jacobs had advised me that on the morning of 23 February he, a radioman, had been watching a reconnaissance patrol led by Sgt Sherman Watson as it made its way back down Suribachi. At about that time, Jacobs received a call from battalion ordering him to rendezvous with Lt. Schrier who was to lead the 40-man combat patrol up Suribachi and raise our colors

Jacobs was to accompany the patrol as its radioman. Pfc at that time Jacobs was a member of Fox Company, 2d Battalion, 28th Marines, 5th Marine Division, and the other patrol members were from Easy Company, therefore the other members of the patrol didn’t know Jacobs and Jacobs had never met the others before. Chuck Lindberg has indicated that there had been a radioman with them on the patrol, but that he didn’t know his name………

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Ray Jacobs: “.That’s when I discovered Dick Gaines’s Gunny G web site.Dick uses Lowery’s classic picture of the first flag raising on his home page.I e mailed him that I was the radioman in that picture.” « ~ The GUNNY “G” BLOG & E-MAIL ~

Ray Jacobs:

“.That’s when I discovered Dick Gaines’s Gunny G web site.Dick uses Lowery’s classic picture of the first flag raising on his home page.I e mailed him that I was the radioman in that picture.”

Excerpts“D + 4 on Iwo Jima was Friday,February 23,1945.At about 10:30 hours I was standing on the broad rim of the crater on top of Suribachi looking up at our colors snapping in the breeze._”“Suddenly something extraordinary happened.We could clearly hear cheering from the Marines in combat on the plain of Iwo below us.They had spotted the flag and as the word spread more Marines joined in cheering our flag crowning Suribachi some 500 feet above.Soon the boats along the landing beaches and the ships at sea joined in blowing horns and whistles.It was a remarkable moment in Marine battle history but unfortunately soon to be forgotten.”

“I was PFC Raymond Jacobs,the radioman with F Company 2nd Battalion 28th Marines.About 40 minutes earlier I had been assigned to accompany an E Company combat patrol for the climb up Suribachi …………..

Ray Jacobs: “.That’s when I discovered Dick Gaines’s Gunny G web site.Dick uses Lowery’s classic picture of the first flag raising on his home page.I e mailed him that I was the radioman in that picture.”

Ray Jacobs: “.That’s when I discovered Dick Gaines’s Gunny G  web site.Dick uses Lowery’s classic picture of the first flag raising on his home page.I e mailed him that I was the radioman in that picture.”
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Excerpts

“D + 4 on Iwo Jima was Friday,February 23,1945.At about 10:30 hours I was standing on the broad rim of the crater on top of Suribachi looking up at our colors snapping in the breeze._”

“Suddenly something extraordinary happened.We could clearly hear cheering from the Marines in combat on the plain of Iwo below us.They had spotted the flag and as the word spread more Marines joined in cheering our flag crowning Suribachi some 500 feet above.Soon the boats along the landing beaches and the ships at sea joined in blowing horns and whistles.It was a remarkable moment in Marine battle history but unfortunately soon to be forgotten.”

“I was PFC Raymond Jacobs,the radioman with F Company 2nd Battalion 28th Marines.About 40 minutes earlier I had been assigned to accompany an E Company combat patrol for the climb up Suribachi to supply communications between the patrol and battalion.”

“The patrol was led by Lt.Harold Shrier,E Company XO. At the top I watched as Lt.Shrier,Sgts.Henry Hansen and Ernest Thomas,Cpl.Charles Lindberg and Pvt Phil Ward secured the flag to a piece of Japanese water pipe.”

“Joined by PhM2c John Bradley they walked the flag and pipe over to the high ground,jammed it into the ground and raised the flag. Leatherneck cameraman Sgt.Lou Lowery had been with the patrol since it was formed.He faithfully followed the patrol taking pictures of the people and our movements every step of the way.In particular,he shot about a dozen pictures of the group of eight people most associated with the flag raising.Lowery’s pictures clearly show the faces of those people.”

“Yet for decades the official Marine Corps record of that event has failed to identify or misidentified five of the people pictured in Lowery’s photos? Obviously,given the time and place,no one was interested in gathering names for the record…but there were other forces at work.”