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China Marines!: Gunny G’s Legends and Myths (Col R. E. Sullivan, PhD, USMC Ret.)
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When the big rank turnover occurred in the MC, and we went from 148 enlisted ranks to 7, I was a newly minted Platoon Sergeant (1 rocker). Along with the other line Marines I took a dim view indeed of “technicians” assuming the chevrons of what had been line ranks. For instance, if a platoon of 45 Master Technical Sergeants, (3 Flat), and one Line Private was assembled, the Line Private became the platoon commander since all line ranks were considered senior to all technical ranks.
(Addendum: By “Sully”)THE ORIGINAL U.S. MARINE CORPS KNIVES OF WORLD WAR II « CITIZEN.BLOGGER.1984+ GUNNY.G BLOG.EMAIL
Gunny Gaines:
In re your topic on WW II knives, may I add the following?
As you may recall, I hail from Gary, Indiana. When I was growing up, having been born in 1927, the only game in town so far as employment was concerned, was the Gary Steel Mills. If men didn’t work in the mills themselves, their jobs were directly related to those enormous producers of steel.
I recall that very early the buildup for WW II young men being drafted or enlisting in the Armed Forces seemed to be always gifted by a knife of one type or another made in the steel mill. These knives were as individual as those who made them. The latter were likely to be friends or relatives of those who recently had donned uniforms.
Some of these knives much more resembled swords than knives. The weight, length, breadth, and edging on each knife amounted to a unique signature. What happened to those knives when they were received by the recipient?
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As Memorial Day Nears, a Single Image That Continues to Haunt
In the run-up to every Memorial Day weekend, for the past several years, a certain photo takes top spot in those most circulated among my fellow military and veteran wives. On blogs, on social media sites, it is shared and “liked” over and over.
Taken by the photographer Todd Heisler from his 2005 award-winning series for The Rocky Mountain News, “Jim Comes Home” — which documents the return and burial of Second Lt. Jim Cathey of the Marines, who lost his life in Iraq — the photo shows his pregnant widow, Katherine, lying on an air mattress in front of his coffin. She’s staring at her laptop, listening to songs that remind her of Jim. Her expression is vacant, her grief almost palpable.
(Adm Boorda) Gunny G’s Marines History and Traditions: Articles By Tom McKenney, LtCol USMC (Ret.), 1997, etc.
Shortly before his suicide death last year, Admiral Boorda, Chief of Naval Operations, was the speaker for the flag officers’ mess. In his speech, Boorda reported proudly that our advanced naval technology – highly classified secret information for which a foreign nation would pay millions, and for which any spy would kill – is being voluntarily given to Red China! After the CNO’s speech was concluded, Major General John K. Singlaub, USA (Ret.), amazed and horrified, approached the admiral and expressed disbelief. After all, China is a sworn enemy of our nation and all that we represent, and is the only nation on Earth with the power to be an actual threat to our existence. Under certain circumstances, it may be justifiable to share such secret technology with an Allied Nation such as Great Britain.
But to give it to an enemy nation is suicidal madness, and an act of treason for which a member of the Armed Forces or a private citizen could be executed. According to General Singlaub, when he asked Admiral Boorda how such a thing could be justified, the admiral smiled uneasily and said, “It is the President’s … the administration’s policy.” Nothing in the Clinton administration “just happens,” and I assure you that nothing of significance happens (at least not more than once) without the knowledge and personal approval of Clinton himself. Nothing.
Gunny G: The First Gung Ho Marine ~ GUNG HO! ~ According To Evans F. Carlson
In short, they understood why the efforts of every single one of them was necessary to the whole Chinese people. That’s ethical indoctrination.
LtCol Evans Carlson, USMC, Carlson’s Raiders after the Makin Island Raid of World War II; photo from the Naval Historical Center (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
He explained carefully how out of ethical indoctrination men grow to have confidence in themselves and their officers; how when every man knows his efforts count, whether officer or cook, general or quartermaster coolie, no one thinks of himself or his job as being more or less important than anyone else or any one else’s job; and each man has respect for himself and confidence in himself and in the others. Out of this mutual respect and confidence, comes the ability of men to work together wholeheartedly, without fear or favor or envy or contempt.
He trembled a little inside him as he spoke, for if ethical indoctrination was the key of the Raiders, it was also the star by which he had finally come to steer his own life. This battalion, these thousand men, was the test of himself.
The Chinese have two words for ‘working together,’ he said. ‘Gung, meaning ‘work’; Ho meaning ‘harmony.’ Gung Ho! Work Together! That is the end result of ethical indoctrination.”
“He went on to explain that Gung Ho was important to all of them, because they were Americans–for it gave them the chance to practice the democracy they believed, where no man should have priviliges over another man and where discipline comes from knowledge….a confidence that creates initiative and daring in battle…greater damage to the enemy…lower cost in lives to themselves…We will strive for ethical indoctrination…I propose that Gung Ho be the spirit and slogan of our Raider Battalion…Let’s hear you say it, He raised his voice and shouted, ‘Gung Ho!’
(Update) Gunny G Inquiry: FDR 1935 Attempt to Eliminate The 48 States and Implement 9 Regional Governments…Has Anyone Written On This?
Franklin Delano Roosevelt, 1933. Lietuvių: Franklinas Delanas Ruzveltas (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
Gunny G’s Marines History and Traditions: On “Fragging”….
Recently, one of these forums here contained mention, in part, of the subject of “fragging” in Vietnam. People seldom mention personal knowledge of such things, although the subject has been discussed in detail long since Vietnam days. What made me think of this was that one of the posters who brought up the subject, was shortly thereafter responded to by another poster who took the poster to task for seemingly condoning such a thing.
I intended to begin this post with that thread, but I cannot seem to locate it now. Regretable, as the responder had stated to the effect that “fragging” was murder, and that no Marine should be a party to and/or condone murder. in any case, I applaud the now unknown responder who had both the decency and courage to respond as he did.
The following are some excerpts from articles on the topic. I am surprised that there is not more material available on this subject.
The following from the thread…
http://www.grunt.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=62910&SearchTerms=heinl
The Collapse Of The U.S. Armed Forces“
“Frag incidents” or just “fragging” is current soldier slang in Vietnam for the murder or attempted murder of strict, unpopular, or just aggressive officers and NCOs. With extreme reluctance (after a young West Pointer from Senator Mike Mansfield’s Montana was fragged in his sleep) the Pentagon has now disclosed that fraggings in 1970(109) have more than doubled those of the previous year (96).
Word of the deaths of officers will bring cheers at troop movies or in bivouacs of certain units.
In one such division — the morale plagued Americal — fraggings during 1971 have been authoritatively estimated to be running about one a week.
Yet fraggings, though hard to document, form part of the ugly lore of every war. The first such verified incident known to have taken place occurred 190 years ago when Pennsylvania soldiers in the Continental Army killed one of their captains during the night of 1 January 1781.”
Ref
http://www.chss.montclair.edu/english/furr/Vietnam/heinl.html#0
“A Comparison Of Marine and army Performance”
Gunny G’s Old Salt Marines Tavern Weblog: The Old Gunny Sez…..
Oceanside Pier, in Oceanside, California. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
THE OLD GUNNY SEZ!
The page title above is just something from my memories of many years ago, and since a webpage probably needs a title of one kind or another, it seems to me appropriate for this one.
Back in the late 1940s/early 1950s, there was a radio program called Marines In Review. It was a half-hour show and it was broadcast on Sunday afternoons, and as I had an interest in the Marine Corps at that time, I would regularly listen to it. My favorite uncle had joined the Marines as soon as he was seventeen in the months after Pearl Harbor, and he became a member of the 18th Marines of the Second Marine Division, and saw service at Guadalcanal, Tarawa, and Saipan/Tinian.
One segment of this show was The Old Gunny Sez, in which the resident old gunny would be queried each Sunday regarding questions that arose regarding the Corps. This venerable old Marine never failed to come up with the information sought by the questioner, due no doubt to his knowledge which was a result of his long and varied service and experience as a Marine. This must have made an impression upon me as I still recall it vividly these fifty-plus years later.
A few years later, about September of 1952, I myself, as a 17 year-old Marine PFC fresh out of Parris Island, reported in to my first duty station at Marine Barracks, Camp Joseph H. Pendleton, Oceanside, California (yes, that’s how the orders read then–no zip code, either). There was no ITR in those days (in case you’re wondering), though there was a T&R Command (Training and Replacement) which may now be seen roughly the equivalent of ITR, but just for those w/orders for Korea, and 17 year-olds were not eligible for Korea at that time.
A few days later, I decided to go to the 12 Area flik one night–each area had its own theatre and PX, etc. To my surprise, I found that the Marines In Review radio show was being recorded there that night just prior to the showing of the nightly movie–”transcribed,” I believe is the word they used for the recording of radio shows in those days. I was also surprised to see that when it came time for The Old Gunny Sez segment, that the Old Gunny’s lines were being read into the microphone by a young Pfc or corporal who, strangely enough, sounded exactly like the Old Gunny I had heard so many times years before over the airwaves back in Rhode Island.
In the coming weeks and months…..
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HyperWar: US Marines in Lebanon, 1982-1984 (Captain Johnson USMC In Lebanon re IsraelTank…)
Israel Charged With Systematic Harassment of U.S. Marines
Israel Charged With Systematic Harassment of U.S. Marines
By Donald Neff
It was 12 years ago, on March 14, 1983, that the commandant of the Marine Corps sent a highly unusual letter to the secretary of defense expressing frustration and anger at Israel. General R.H. Barrow charged that Israeli troops were deliberately threatening the lives of Marines serving as peacekeepers in Lebanon. There was, he wrote, a systematic pattern of harassment by Israel Defense Forces (IDF) that was resulting in “life-threatening situations, replete with verbal degradation of the officers, their uniform and country.”
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Barrow’s letter added: “It is inconceivable to me why Americans serving in peacekeeping roles must be harassed, endangered by an ally…It is evident to me, and the opinion of the U.S. commanders afloat and ashore, that the incidents between the Marines and the IDF are timed, orchestrated, and executed for obtuse Israeli political purposes.”1
Israel’s motives were less obtuse than the diplomatic general pretended. It was widely believed then, and now, that Israeli Defense Minister Ariel Sharon, one of Israel’s most Machiavellian politician-generals, was creating the incidents deliberately in an effort to convince Washington that the two forces had to coordinate their actions in order to avoid such tensions.
This, of course, would have been taken by the Arabs as proof that the Marines were not really in Lebanon as neutral peacekeepers but as allies of the Israelis, a perception that would have obvious advantages for Israel.2
Barrow’s extraordinary letter was indicative of the frustrations and miseries the Marines suffered during their posting to Lebanon starting on Aug. 25, 1982, as a result of Israel’s invasion 11 weeks earlier. Initially a U.S. unit of 800 men was sent to Beirut harbor as part of a multinational force to monitor the evacuation of PLO guerrillas from Beirut.
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Harry S. Truman (1884–1972) English: Harry S. Truman (1884 – 1972), 1945 – 1953 the thirty-third President of the United States Deutsch: Harry S. Truman (1884–1972), 1945 bis 1953 33. Präsident der Vereinigten Staaten (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
SOME ‘Gunny G’ NOTES ON MARINE CORPS HISTORY, POLITICS, INTER-SERVICE RELATIONS, ETC.
“For your information the Marine Corps is the Navy’s police force and as long as I am President that is what it will remain. They have a propaganda machine that is almost equal to Stalin’s.”
-President Harry S. Truman, 1950
Truth on 9/11 revealed by US Marine Corps veteran | EUTimes.net
A US Marine Corps veteran and author asserts that Israel masterminded the 9/11 attacks, saying if Americans were informed of this, they would exterminate the Zionist regime.
“I have had long conversations over the past two weeks with contacts at the Army War College, at the Headquarters Marine Corps, and I have made it absolutely clear in both cases that it is 100 percent certain that 9/11 was a Mossad operation. Period,” Alan Sabrosky, writer and consultant specializing in national and international security affairs, said in a clip appearing on the public video-sharing website You Tube.
Sabrosky said his colleagues who are still serving in uniform initially react with incredulity to his assertions but upon his explanations regarding the controlled demolition of the buildings their disbelief gives way to rage.
“First is disbelief, and what I show them immediately afterwards is an interview with a Danish demolitions expert named Danny Jowenko, and it shows the third building at the World Trade Center going down – WTC7.”
GUNNY G: Retired Marine General Anthony ZINNI, etc…
General Anthony Zinni, USMC (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
Got this one via email from Bob Rader…
Thanks, Bob!
-GyG
*****
(Email sent to Bob Rader…)
Tony Zinni and I both went to AWS at the same time at Quantico in ’71, he was a young Capt and me, a little older———this is him. And this is what we both think of all you guys that served,
Semper Fi,
LINK BELOW…
Report from Former U.S. Marine Hints at Whereabouts of Long-Lost Peking Man Fossils
Report from Former U.S. Marine Hints at Whereabouts of Long-Lost Peking Man Fossils
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In the 1930s archaeologists working at the site of Zhoukoudian near Beijing recovered an incredible trove of partial skulls and other bones representing some 40 individuals that would eventually be assigned to the early human species Homo erectus. The bones, which recent estimates put at around 770,000 years old, constitute the largest collection of H. erectus fossils ever found. They were China‘s paleoanthropological pride and joy. And then they vanished.
According to historical accounts, in 1941 the most important fossils in the collection were packed in large wooden footlockers or crates to be turned over to the U.S. military for transport to the American Museum of Natural History in New York for safekeeping during World War II. But the fossils never made it to the U.S. Today, all scientists have are copies of the bones. The disappearance of the originals stands as one of the biggest mysteries in paleoanthropology.
…Lee Berger of the University of the Witwatersrand in Johannesburg and Wu Liu and Xiujie Wu of the Institute for Vertebrate Paleontology and Paleoanthropology in Beijing detail their investigation into a recent report concerning the location of the missing bones. Former U.S. Marine Richard M. Bowen, now in his 80s, claimed that in 1947, when he was stationed at Camp Holcomb in the port city of Qinhaungdao during China’s Nationalist-Communist Civil War, he came across a box full of bones while digging foxholes one night. Spooked, he reburied the box. Soon thereafter his company evacuated Qinhaungdao…
How an 1870s Marine Expedition Changed Oceanography and Drove Eight Sailors Insane
HMS Challenger (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
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How an 1870s marine expedition changed oceanography and drove eight sailors insane
When was the first voyage of the Challenger? No, not the Space Shuttle — the original Challenger, a sea ship that sailed in 1872. The HMS Challenger traversed the world’s oceans for four years, drove some of its sailors completely insane, caused about a quarter of the crew to jump ship, and forever changed the face of ocean science.
Is there a way to scroll past the nature channels without seeing one that describes the richness of the ocean and the life that teems in its depth? In the early 1800s, the ocean was something to fish in and to get across. What happened below 1500 feet was of no concern to anyone, although scientists calculated that the pressure, the temperature, and the lack of sunlight meant that no life existed below. The bottom of the ocean was presumed to be as lifeless as the surface of the moon, though it was far less known. In 1872, the HMS Challenger was sent out to circumnavigate the globe, with a crew of around 240 sailors and scientists. When it got back in 1876, it had 144 people aboard, losing people to madness, death, sickness, and sheer desperation to escape the voyage. It also held a wealth of information that launched a new era of exploration, and a new field of science.
Former Commandant of Marine Corps testimony before the SASC on Women in Combat June 1991
General Robert H. Barrow, USMC. 27th Commandant of the Marine Corps. Official USMC photo. Source: USMC website Barrow (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
Former Commandant of Marine Corps testimony before the SASC on Women in Combat June 1991
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Gunny G’s Marines History and Traditions: Capt Max “Two Gun” Shapiro, USMC….
I’m sure they left this guy’s part out of the movie version, or I’d remember it.
In the latter chapters of the book, Battle Cry, by Leon Uris, the Bn Co, LtCol Huxley (Highpockets), is in his office with his XO, Major Wellman. They are dicussing a new officer due to report aboard. The officer is Max Shapiro; a Marine legend and known as “Two Gun Shapiro.” His record told a story of transfers, demotion, courts-martial, citations for valor, and promotions. It was a book of contradictions.
Huxley knew he was a troublemaker, but, Huxley told Wellman, the book tells only part of the story. He knew that the name Two Gun did not refer to Shapiro as an expert with weapons, on the contrary, Shapiro had bad eyes, the story goes that he had sneaked up on a Jap at close range and fired two clips of forty-fives and missed every shot. Huxley had heard of him back some 10 years prior, Shapiro’s father had gotten him into West Point, where he was low man in his class. One summer he had followed a girl to Europe and married her, only to have the marriage annulled by the girl’s parents. After this he was kicked out of West Point.
He immediately joined the Marine Corps as a private. He was promoted up and demoted down between PFC and Private for 6 years or more. He had been to Shanghai and did duty at the International Settlement in 1937. A few years later, he married the daughter of a general at Quantico, and was promptly shipped off to achieve officer’s rank. A couple years later, they were divorced. Huxley went on to state that Max had been bounced about the Corps from one remote detail to another. He was constantly in the debt of his men, and they called him Max.
The book tells of Shapiro having been a member of Coleman’s Raiders on The Makin Raid and Guadalcanal–a thinly disguised reference to Carlson’s Raiders. Many authors, Uris too I suspect, develop their characters around people they’ve actually known. Or at least do so in some cases, and to one degree or another; some characters are composites of several individuals.
In the following quote, Mac is speaking…”My squad gathered around the large shack that housed the Battalion office. There was rampant excitement. Captain Max Shapiro had been transferred to the Second Battalion to take over Fox Company. The nortorious and glorious Two Gun Shapiro from Coleman’s Raiders who had earned his first Navy Cross in the Makin raid–and a court-martial. He had more decorations and courts-martial than the next three officers in the Corps combined. He was a legend.”
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…..And that’s the way it was….Salute! Semper Fidelis, SullyAll Marines die in either the red flash of battle or the white cold of the nursing home.
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In the vigor of youth or the infirmity of age all will eventually die but the Marine Corps lives on.
Every Marine who ever lived is living still, in the Marines who claim the title today. It is that sense of belonging to something that will outlive our own mortality.
Oliver North supports Newt, won’t ‘entertain the nightmare’ of an Obama re-election
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Retired U.S. Marine Corps officer Oliver North told The Daily Caller that he would like to see former House Speaker Newt Gingrich as commander in chief, saying that another four years of President Barack Obama would be “a nightmare.”
North told TheDC at the Conservative Political Action Conference that “two years ago, when [Gingrich] suggested he might run, he asked for my support. I pledged I would do it,” he said. (RELATED: More interviews from CPAC)
“It’s time for us to hire a commander in chief who doesn’t feel necessary to run around the world apologizing for America,” said North.
“I’m deeply concerned that if we don’t hire a new commander in chief… we can indeed end up in very, very serious jeopardy in this country,” he added.
Widow of Marine Corps Launches Campaign to Prove Her Husband Was Murdered | Veterans Today
Military widows join forces to raise awareness of non-hostile military deaths.
(EASLEY, SC) – Kimberly Stahlman, widow of Colonel USMC, is fighting to prove that her husband did not commit suicide but was instead murdered. However, the Marine Corps refuses to help.
As part of this fight she partnered with Tracy Shue, widow of Colonel Philip Shue USAF and writer/military family advocate Cilla McCain and drafted a Bill of Rights for Bereaved Military Families.
To bring this campaign to the public, they have started a petition to Congress and launched MilitaryHomicide.org as a resource for other military families facing the same circumstances.
Marine Corps Colonel Michael Stahlman was an investigating officer in the case against Lt. Andrew Grayson, an intelligence officer charged with making false statements, attempting fraudulent discharge, and obstructing justice, in connection to the deaths of 24 Iraqi civilians in the city of Haditha.
Colonel Stahlman was vocal in his disappointment with the manner in which the entire Haditha matter was handled by the Marine Corps hierarchy and recommended that charges against Grayson be dropped. The recommendation was rejected by prosecutors and Grayson eventually was cleared of all charges in June 2008.
Mind blowing speech by Robert Welch in 1958 predicting Insiders plans to destroy America
Reblogged from NOW BLOG THIS! ~ GUNNY.G: AMERICAN !:
Mind blowing speech by Robert Welch in 1958 predicting Insiders plans to destroy America
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Welch was right!
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~ GUNNY.G.CONFIDENTIAL ~WAKE UP AMERICA.1984.PLUS IS HERE!: RONALD REAGAN’S WISDOM ON THE MIDDLE EAST: LEAVE!
Ronald Reagan’s wisdom on the Middle East: LEAVE!
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A Civilian-Military Face Off?
On July 26, 2007, another 13 American soldiers were killed in Iraq; while Congress is on their month long vacation, our soldiers will continue dying in this unconstitutional invasion built on a mountain of lies.
Kids sent into war unprepared for what it really means. The tragic results are everywhere and this is just one example: Marine: Unit Was Ordered to ‘Crank Up Violence Level’ in Iraq. “I don’t see it as an execution, sir,” he told the judge, according to the newspaper. “I see it as killing the enemy.”
He said Marines consider all Iraqi men part of the insurgency. “Because of the way they live, the clans, they’re all in it together,” he said.” That whole mess is just one tragedy after another. Just to digress a moment, remember this newspaper I scanned years ago? See here. What it says that should chill everyone:
“Some Marines say they can see the day when the Corps will be required to execute Haiti-like missions, or worse, within the borders of the United States….Because of the rising potential for civil disobedience within the inner cities, it is inevitable the U.S. military will be employed more often within American borders….
To enable the Marines to execute these new domestic missions in the same way that they do abroad, Major Reeves calls for major alterations in U.S. laws.” Sacramento Bee (scanned here: Forum section), November 30, 1997:
Our civilian-military face off – The Bill of Rights no obstacle for Corps”…..
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GUNNY G: CHESTY PULLER: (BUT, THE ENEMY CAME FROM WITHIN) AND WE FAILED TO HEED HIS WARNING!
GUNNY G: CHESTY PULLER: (BUT, THE ENEMY CAME FROM WITHIN) AND WE FAILED TO HEED HIS WARNING!
~ BLOGGER.GUNNY.G ~WAKE UP AMERICA.1984.+ IS HERE!: Israel Charged With Systematic Harassment of U.S. Marines…
Israel Charged With Systematic Harassment of U.S. Marines
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http://www.wrmea.com/backissues/0395/9503079.htm
March 1995, pgs. 79-81
Middle East History—It Happened In March
Israel Charged With Systematic Harassment of U.S. Marines
By Donald Neff
It was 12 years ago, on March 14, 1983, that the commandant of the Marine Corps sent a highly unusual letter to the secretary of defense expressing frustration and anger at Israel. General R.H. Barrow charged that Israeli troops were deliberately threatening the lives of Marines serving as peacekeepers in Lebanon. There was, he wrote, a systematic pattern of harassment by Israel Defense Forces (IDF) that was resulting in “life-threatening situations, replete with verbal degradation of the officers, their uniform and country.”
Barrow’s letter added: “It is inconceivable to me why Americans serving in peacekeeping roles must be harassed, endangered by an ally…It is evident to me, and the opinion of the U.S. commanders afloat and ashore, that the incidents between the Marines and the IDF are timed, orchestrated, and executed for obtuse Israeli political purposes.”1
Marine Corps clarifies “don’t pee towards Mecca” stories
Marine Corps clarifies “don’t pee towards Mecca” stories
Greeley Gazette ^ | November 15, 2011 | Jack Minor
Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2011 10:30:12 PM by Red Steel
The Marine Corps has said a recent news story about Marines being told not to pee towards Mecca does not reflect Corps training or doctrine.
The North County Times recently reported a story on Marines at Camp Pendleton being trained prior to deploying to Afghanistan.
The report mentioned that one of the trainers, Shafiq Mubarak, from the Marine Corps Center for Advanced Operational Culture Learning (COACL), told the Marines that in order to avoid offending Muslims in Afghanistan; they should not urinate towards Mecca.
Chesty Puller — Marine Legend — His Life In Pictures – YouTube
(EXCERPT) The Hays Daily News (Re the case against Alfred Dutton, 65, a veteran of both the U.S. Army and U.S. Marines. Dutton was charged in a two-count indictment handed down in September with possession of unregistered destructive devices.)
WICHITA — A federal judge will hear oral arguments this month on whether to dismiss charges against a Kansas veteran accused of illegally possessing incendiary bombs and grenades as he prepared for the end of the world at his Eureka apartment.
U.S. District Judge J. Thomas Marten on Friday set a Dec. 15 date in the case against Alfred Dutton, 65, a veteran of both the U.S. Army and U.S. Marines. Dutton was charged in a two-count indictment handed down in September with possession of unregistered destructive devices.
GUNNY G: The Marine Corps Emblem (referred to as “Globe and Anchor” by Old Corps Marines…) of the late 1800s and worn on the dress/parade helmet…
The Marine Corps Emblem (referred to as “Globe and Anchor” by Old Corps Marines…) of the late 1800s and worn on the dress/parade helmet…
Gunny G’s Marines History and Traditions: Gung Ho Has Lost Its Meaning…
“I have found that many writers, in many publications, writing about Carlson, have made the observation that the words Gung Ho have lost much of their original meaning.
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Also, it has been pointed out that the translation of the words themselves from the Chinese produces even more room for confusion, as there may be multiple definitions or interpretations, just as many American words have more that one dictionary meaning.
And, too, many have noted that “Gung Ho!” has been “bastardized” to the point that it is now, to many, just a slogan, a battle cry, or just a word denoting a goodMarine Gung Ho was not something simple to understand, even for Carlson and his Raider Marines–it had to be worked on and lived!
In an article titled “The Legacy of Evans Carlson,” by Robert J. Dalton (LtCol USMC Ret.) in the August 1987 Marine Corps Gazette, the author states, “…Ironically, the term ‘gung ho’ has come to mean almost the opposite of how it was originally used. Today, the term has an aggressive, Prussianistic connotation. It has little of the ‘ethical’meaning for which it was originally used….”
GUNNY G: TRUE BIRTHDAY U.S. MARINE CORPS…by Gunny G!
“… When the peace treaty with Britain finally was signed in 1783, only the Continental frigate Alliance was still in commission. A small Marine guard commanded by Lieutenant Thomas Elwood stayed with the frigate until Congress decided to sell the vessel in September.
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With the sale of the Alliance, the Continental Navy and Marines went out of existence.”From, The United States Marines A History, by BGen Ed Simmons…”…As for the Marines, only the slenderest thread of continuity can be claimed by virtue of “marines” serving in the Revenue Cutter Service…
There were to be Marine “quotas”…not “detachments” for there was no corps from which they could be detached……on 11 July 1798, the true birthday of the Corps,President John Adams approved…establishing and organizing a Marine Corps.”
-Dick Gaines
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Customs and TraditionsMarine Corps Birthday Celebration”The U.S. Marine Corps begins preparations for its “birthday party” every summer. Activities become more feverish as the fall hues arrive.
By early November, every Marine is either rehearsing his role in the “party” or pressing, polishing, and spit-shining in order to appear at his or her best for the Birthday Ball.
GUNNY G: HAPPY BIRTHDAY (2011) MARINES !!!!! (PLEASE FORWARD)
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Marines Warned: Don’t Spit Toward Mecca – Diana West – Townhall Conservative
Uncle Sam is getting a little weird. Make that a lot weird. Having dumped hundreds of billions of dollars into a sinkhole called Afghanistan — populated by misogynistic, pederastic, tribalistic and religiously supremacist primitives — to no avail, he has hit on a new plan for winning those ever-elusive Afghan “hearts and minds.”
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Uncle Sam has decided that the answer lies in the latrine with the U.S. Marine Corps. No kidding. When nature calls, Uncle Sam has decided he wants every U.S. Marine equipped with a map and compass, or some other way of knowing direction. This is to ensure that no U.S. Marine in Afghanistan urinates in the direction of Mecca ever again.
Now, there’s a winning strategy…..
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via Marines Warned: Don’t Spit Toward Mecca – Diana West – Townhall Conservative.
GUNNY G: “Cocked And Locked!” ~ Marine Mail Guards 1921&1926
“Cocked And Locked!”
And, in a ‘circular letter’, “Subject: Miscellaneous Instructions, dated 13 December 1921, from The Major General Commandant….
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1. In cases where trains carrying Marines guarding mails cross the Canadian Boundry enroute to another point in the United States, the Marines, upon crossing the boundry, shall place their arms in a registered mail-sack and turn over the sack to Canadian Post Office Officials (who accompany the train) until such time as the train re-crosses into the United States. Under no circumstances shall Marines exercise a military function in Canadian teritory.
2. Shotguns preferably will be carried with filled magazine and empty chamber, in order to avoid accidents.
Gunny G: “SULLY,” RAY JACOBS, and “MAC” McCULLOUGH…. « ~ BLOGGER.GUNNY.G.1984+ ~
Gunny G: “SULLY,” RAY JACOBS, and “MAC” McCULLOUGH….
Those of you on my e-mail list and who read my blogs will recognize the name of Ken “Mac” McCullough and his recent pic holding his old WW II Gung Ho knife from his Carlson Raider days.
Back about 1998/97, when I first got online, I pursued topics of Marine Corps history such as Carlson’s Raiders, the Flags of Suribachi, etc. At that time there was little such in-depth information online; so I did it the old fashioned-way–I did it myself.
Since then the Marine Raiders organization and Dan Marsh came along and put up much more sophisticated sites on the raiders. And, then, a couple years or so later I got an e-mail from Marine Ray Jacobs who had been the radioman in the Lou Lowery photos of that first flag raising on Suribachi. And, during those years, Dr. R.E. Sullivan, Col USMC Ret, also contacted me regarding both of us having served at Camp Fuji, Japan back in the ’50s. “Sully” is a prolific writer of all things Old Corps, and we have shared many online discussions together these last many years. He is a WW II, China, Korea, and Vietnam Marine.
I have been very fortunate in my years online having interacted with such Marines as Mac, Ray, and “Sully,” all of whom greatly added to my knowledge of USMC historical topics. And there have been many others who I have neglected to mention here, but whose names and stories appear here and there throughout my webpages.
Israel Charged With Systematic Harassment of U.S. Marines
Middle East History—It Happened In March
Israel Charged With Systematic Harassment of U.S. Marines
By Donald Neff
It was 12 years ago, on March 14, 1983, that the commandant of the Marine Corps sent a highly unusual letter to the secretary of defense expressing frustration and anger at Israel. General R.H. Barrow charged that Israeli troops were deliberately threatening the lives of Marines serving as peacekeepers in Lebanon. There was, he wrote, a systematic pattern of harassment by Israel Defense Forces (IDF) that was resulting in “life-threatening situations, replete with verbal degradation of the officers, their uniform and country.”
Barrow’s letter added: “It is inconceivable to me why Americans serving in peacekeeping roles must be harassed, endangered by an ally…It is evident to me, and the opinion of the U.S. commanders afloat and ashore, that the incidents between the Marines and the IDF are timed, orchestrated, and executed for obtuse Israeli political purposes.”1
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Gunny G: Chesty Puller On Loyalty Down…..
Amid a nationwide public outcry regarding the whole matter of the drownings in particular and Marine Corps training practices in general, LtGen Lewis B. “Chesty” Puller was recalled to active duty to testify at the trial regarding Marine training and tradition.
Mrs. Puller protested to her husband citing previous trouble and controversy in Puller’s career. Puller told her, “
…The important thing is the Marine Corps. If we let ‘em, they’ll tear it to pieces. Headquarters won’t speak up. It’s my duty to do it.”
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U.S. Marine Raiders – Official Web Site
(1-1 p6-9)
Raider Cleary’s plaque to be placed on USS Makin Island
During the summer of 1942 Admiral Nimitz decided to employ Carlson‘s battalion for its designated purpose. Planners selected Makin Atoll in the Gilbert Islands as the target. They made available two large mine-laying submarines, the Nautilus and the Argonaut. Each one could carry a company of raiders. The force would make a predawn landing on Butaritari Island, destroy the garrison (estimated at 45 men), withdraw that evening, and land the next day on Little Makin Island. The scheduled D-day was 17 August, 10 days after the lst Marine Division and the lst Raiders assaulted the lower Solomons. The objectives of the operation were diverse: to destroy installations, take prisoners, gain intelligence on the area, and divert Japanese attention and reinforcements from Guadalcanal and Tulagi. Companies A and B drew the mission and boarded the submarines on 8 August. Once in the objective area, things began to go badly. The subs surfaced in heavy rain and high seas. Due to the poor conditions, Carlson altered his plan at the last minute. Instead of each company landing on widely separated beaches, they would go ashore together. Lieutenant Oscar F. Peatross, a platoon commander, did not get the word; he and the squad in his boat ended up landing alone in what became the enemy rear. The main body reached shore in some confusion due to engine malfunctions and weather, then the accidental discharge of a weapon ruined any hope of surprise.
First Lieutenant Merwyn C. Plumley’s Company A quickly crossed the narrow island and………..
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Gunny G’s USMC OohRah Forum!: AARUGHA and OOORAH
The Recon Marines (and maybe all Marines), have their “OORAH” and the Army its “HOOAH”! But what is the origin of these exclamations by troops (can’t call them words– they are better described as sounds)? When used they are unmistakenly expressions of verve, spirit, morale, espirit, eliteness and sometimes derision! They are responses, greetngs, etc.
You won’t find anything in Navy BuPers files. Marine Corps directives or Army regulations prescribing that they be used. Yet, they permeate the ranks and their origins ought to be recorded for they are as much military lexicon as “SNAFU,” “GI”, “Kilroy was here“, “P38″, etc. And, woe betide the commander who thinks he can put an end to their use! They are exclusive property of those who use them and rightfully so–for what it means to them transcends anything a leader can do to give them unity and a sense of belonging!
Whey did they start? Who started them? Why are they so popular with the troops? I can’t answer the question…”OORAH”is answered below, courtesy of Gary “Buddha” Marte, (former Marine).
OK, HERE IT IS! THE DEFINITION AND HISTORY OF ‘OORAH’
Gunny G’s Marines History and Traditions: Ribbon Creek PISC Plt #71 1956 S/Sgt Matt McKeon USMC
The offending DI was Staff Sergeant Matthew C. McKeon, assigned to Platoon 71,
“A” Company, 3d Recruit Training Battalion.On Sunday night, 8 April,
between 2000 and 2045, he marched 74 men of Platoon 71 from their barracks to
Ribbon Creek, one of the tidal streams on Parris Island, and led the men into
the water. Some of them got into depths over their heads, panic ensued, and
six recruits drowned in the resulting confusion.
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via Gunny G’s Marines History and Traditions: Ribbon Creek PISC Plt #71 1956 S/Sgt Matt McKeon USMC.
TRR: Screwball Hippies think the Marines are coming – Washington Times
A post going viral among supporters of the OccupyWallSt. protest reads:
“US Marines headed to WALLSTREET to protect protesters! THIS IS IT!”
“The Occupy Wall Street movement may have just received an unexpected surprise – United States Army and Marine troops are reportedly on their way to various protest locations to support the movement and to protect the protesters.
“Army serviceman Ward Reilly posted the following on Facebook, ‘I’m heading up there tonight in my dress blues. So far, 15 of my fellow marine buddies are meeting me there, also in Uniform.’
“I want to send the following message to Wall St and Congress:
“I didn’t fight for Wall St. I fought for America. Now it’s Congress’ turn.”
Ward Reilly — not an active duty member of the military — posted this helpful clarification on his Facebook page:
“To all my Facebook friends….PLEASE note that the message from the Marine who is going to ‘OccupyWallSt.’ with his buddies was sent to one of the co-organizers of our organizing team for the Oct.6 action in D.C.
“I am NOT the Marine that sent the message…(I was Army Infantry, ’71-’74)….MANY hundreds of my fellow veterans are doing the same thing in D.C., starting on Oct.6. I simply shared the fine message from the Marine. :>) ….thank you all for making that message go viral.”
via TRR: Screwball Hippies think the Marines are coming – Washington Times.
Gunny G’s Marines History and Traditions: That Bronze Marine Statue w/MC Emblem On Helmet
“Once the war was over, General Pershing commissioned a French sculptor to create a bronze statue to commemorate the U.S. Army Doughboy’s service in WWI. General Pershing told his staff to furnish a model to pose for the French sculptor for his commemorative statue. Apparently not too much guidance was given, and the individual assigned to pose for the statue was a Marine Private. The Frenchman, having no intramural rivalries in his psyche, modeled the Marine Private in his entirety – complete with the Marine Corps Emblem on his helmet!
When General Pershing saw the finished statue, he refused to accept the finished project since it had a USMC emblem on the helmet! Pershing was, in a word, outraged! Help was in the wings however, as General Smedley Butler (two Medals of Honor) saw the statue and fell in love. He took up a collection from all the Marines in the AEF and bought the statue from the Frenchman. They shipped the Statue back to the United States and placed it in front of the old Headquarters of the Marine Base at Quantico.
The statue stands there today as a reminder to the Corps of its heritage and remains on guard over the old Headquarters Building of long ago. I often have stood in front of it and harked back to an earlier time. Although uncovered, I………………….
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via Gunny G’s Marines History and Traditions: That Bronze Marine Statue w/MC Emblem On Helmet.
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