Steve Klein is a Vietnam veteran (USMC). He was attached to South Vietnamese militia from 1968-1970. He acted as a translator and negotiator. Also, he organized ambushes on remaining Viet Cong cells as well as North Vietnamese Army elements. From 1970 until 1973 he earned his bachelors degree in political science from University of California at Long Beach. He became a commissioned officer in the Marine Corps in 1974. He served as a communications officer until leaving the Marine Corps in 1977.
Since 1977 he started Courageous Christians United (now he is the secretary). He also founded M.E.E.T. – Middle Eastern Experts’ Team. Through MEET and his contacts with the Coptic community he has been asked to give his insights to the FBI and the U.S. Marine Corps.
by Jim Emerson, staff writer
War is an ugly endeavor fought by brave warriors at the behest of national leaders. In the heat of battle soldiers are killed, wounded, captured or go missing. Prisoners captured during battle are at the mercy of the enemy. Despite laws created by gentleman’s agreement in an international forum, history has shown that combatant nations have abused, tortured and killed prisoners captured on the battlefield. After World War II, Russia would declare a Prisoner of War (POW) a war criminal and hold them well beyond the end of hostilities. It has become a standard practice of Communist nations to hold prisoners long after wars’ end, making the process of accounting for the dead or missing difficult if not impossible.
Cliff Kincaid — Bill Ayers and his Media Groupies… “Bill Ayers’ claim that the Weather Underground bombed property, not people, in order to protest the Vietnam War, is two lies in one. First,…”
Bill Ayers’ claim that the Weather Underground bombed property, not people, in order to protest the Vietnam War, is two lies in one. First, they specialized in anti-personnel bombs using heavy metal staples. Second, Ayers and his wife Bernardine Dohrn were not opposed to the war, only to a U.S. victory.
As reported by Jim Mackinnon of the Akron Beacon Journal, Ayers maintained, during a speaking appearance, “No one died in the Weather Underground bombings.” He was trying to claim that the Weather Underground was different from the Islamic terrorists in the Boston bombings case.
Of all the media covering Ayers’ newest charges, only Fox News interviewed Larry Grathwohl, an FBI informant in the Weather Underground, who said “Ayers told him personally that fellow Weather Underground member and future wife Bernadine Dohrn set the bomb that killed San Francisco Park Police Sergeant Brian McDonnell in 1970.”
“Bill Ayers told me in Buffalo that we weren’t doing enough bombings and strategic sabotages,” Grathwohl told FoxNews.com. “He complained that it was a sad situation when [Dohrn] had to plan and place the bomb at the San Francisco Park Police station.”
FoxNews.com ^ | 5-6-2013 | FoxNews.com
Posted on Monday, May 06, 2013 3:32:23 PM by topher
Bill Ayers, the 1960′s radical who went on to become a college professor and associate of President Obama, said Saturday the bombings he helped the Weather Underground carry out to protest the Vietnam War bear no resemblance to the deadly Boston Marathon attack – and glossed over the fact that his group’s bombs killed three fellow terrorists and have been linked to the murder of a San Francisco police officer.
Gunny G: In My Opinion, The Best Info Available Re The MIA, POW Issue… | AMERICAN BLOGGER: GUNNY.G ~ WEBLOG.EMAIL
Special Forces Green Beret Master Sgt. John Hartley Robertson had forgotten how to speak English over the 44 years since he was left behind in the Vietnam War. But he never forgot that he was a father, husband and an American soldier, born in Alabama, shot down over Laos in a 1968 classified mission.
Robert Redford’s Terrorist Heroes
FrontPageMag.com ^ | Arpil 16, 2013 | Bosch Fawstin
Posted on Tuesday, April 16, 2013 12:28:32 PM by Perseverando
“ALL OF IT,” said Robert Redford, when asked if he supported the bombings by The Weather Underground.
Redford came out for terrorism on a mainstream morning television show in an interview with democrat-operative-leftist-hack George Stephanopoulos, who was slobbering over Redford’s pro-terrorist movie, The Company You Keep. I drew my illustration of Redford, below, days ago, and I wonder if he’s for the terrorist attack in Boston today. Or maybe he wants to wait and see if it’s leftist terrorists before he decides he’s all for it. Below is a list of what Robert Redford was for, via Sean Hannity on FOX News.
The Weather Underground’s history of terrorism consisted of:
Screwing the Troops
What Else is New?
April 4, 2013
For a country always at war, the United States is remarkably not interested in taking care of soldiers it has broken in its wars. Having bankrupted the country, Washington sinks every available penny into the two purposes of the military: funneling money into the arms industry, and fueling imperial ambitions, in large part of pasty fern-bar Napoleons at National Review and Commentary.
The Veterans Administration is way back in the chow line. It doesn’t work very well. As best I can tell, nobody cares.
It costs roughly a thousand dollars retail. For a blinded vet, most likely of slight education and no resources beyond his VA compensation, this is a lot of money.
By Carl Gibson, Reader Supported News
efore scoffing at this headline, you should know that in 1999, in Memphis, Tennessee, more than three decades after MLK’s death, a jury found local, state, and federal government agencies guilty of conspiring to assassinate the Nobel Peace Prize winner and civil rights leader. The same media you would expect to cover such a monumental decision was absent at the trial, because those news organizations were part of that conspiracy.
The Tip of the Spear… “During the Revolutionary War, the founders felt the need to create an military force in order to liberate themselves from the British Crown, but they were suspect of the kind of government that would create a permanent standing army.” | Flyover-Press.com
The American military of today has its founding in the Cold War. During the Revolutionary War, the founders felt the need to create an military force in order to liberate themselves from the British Crown, but they were suspect of the kind of government that would create a permanent standing army.
Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts: “What, sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty.”
Thomas Jefferson: “The spirit of this country is totally adverse to a large military force.”
And so it was for the large part of US history, there was no permanent military force that could be used for foreign adventures or domestic suppression.
During the Cold War, the permanent standing Army was created in response to the “Soviet Threat”. Millions of American men went through the doors of the service, as a rite of martial passage for the bulk of the population.
THE BLANK PAGE POW: MCCAIN…
The ignorance of arrogance – seems to be this boy’s disease -
He claims the hero’s status – but which side did he please -
I thought all of us came forth – after we came marching home -
We gave them chapter and verse – our words would fill a tome -
But when I asked the man – to let me see what the boy said -
With the publication just two weeks ago of The New York Times best seller “An Enormous Crime: The Definitive Account of American POWs Abandoned in Southeast Asia,” it is inevitable that the role in the POW issue of Sen. — and former POW — John McCain now be examined.
Having known McCain since June 7, 1974, I have often written of his sarcastic, arrogant and condescending attitude toward those who disagree with him — on any issue.
His temper is legendary; his latest outburst was directed at fellow GOP Sen. John Cornyn of Texas over McCain’s immigration bill.
Everyone in D.C. and Arizona knows of the mean-spirited side of John McCain. But on no issue has John McCain been meaner than the question of the hundreds of U.S. POWs who did not come home in 1973 when McCain came home.
Vultures Feast on Purple Heart… “Mark Twain was probably the first who discovered the ugly truth about Congress, which he described as “the smallest minds and the selfishest souls and the cowardliest hearts that God makes.”……” | Veterans Today
by Colonel Eugene Khrushchev
While many folks merrily praised St. Valentine for the Day of Love, somewhere in Washington D.C., one taciturn Vietnam War vet paid private tribute to St. Sebastian to put an end to his tortuous ordeal on Feb.14 as the last day of hate.
Alas, as bad luck would have it, the irreconcilable Cruz-aiders have prevailed again as the longest political witch hunt in US history to keep American warrior crucified, will be extended over the next 10 days of Capitol infamy.
YouTube – Veterans Today -
Senator Hagel, badly mauled but unrepentant, has yet to persevere and survive the final encounter with the grisly jaws of GOPlins to be anointed as a new Secretary of Defense before the end of the winter.
(GyG: What “The Folks” Are Sayin’) ~ Rendezvous with Destiny… (“…..Who would have thought that it would fall to us, some of us in our so-called declining years (unless 60 is the new 40) to rescue the Republic? In our lifetimes, we have had the war in Vietnam, and the Reagan revival, and now we find the left has been tunneling under us all along. Last Tuesday, the platform we thought was solid collapsed…”)
…..Who would have thought that it would fall to us, some of us in our so-called declining years (unless 60 is the new 40) to rescue the Republic? In our lifetimes, we have had the war in Vietnam, and the Reagan revival, and now we find the left has been tunneling under us all along. Last Tuesday, the platform we thought was solid collapsed as if its underpinnings had been eaten by termites, which they had.
Mitt: The Strange Case of the Secret “Vietnam Years” (“Everything known about Mitt Romney is hagiography, basically bull. This will be something different, unvarnished, and true. “)| Veterans Today
by Gordon Duff
During the brutal Vietnam War, some men dodged the draft, sought deferments, faked illnesses, were placed in National Guard and Reserve units then destined to never be called up. Some opposed the war, some favored war but wanted others to fight for them, those are called “Chickenhawks.”
Others, like Mitt Romney, current presidential candidate, go further. Elections bring out fiction, acrimony and hagiography. The latter is the drivel money buys to hide the truth even if the truth may be the only signs of humanity left in what has otherwise become an empty shell.
We will learn about Mitt Romney, more an invention than a person and a family that, for generations, rejected American citizenship, fled America to avoid prosecution for 26 years and never reapplied or met citizenship criteria.
Everything known about Mitt Romney is hagiography, basically bull. This will be something different, unvarnished, and true.
Draft evasion isn’t a clever ruse to avoid serving your nation during wartime; it’s a criminal act punishable by ten years in prison and a large fine. It labels violators felons for life, prohibits voting, running for public office and can even, heaven forbid, prohibit serving as President of the United States.
The difference between the two involves analysis of the legality of efforts to be “unavailable” for service.
There are several “official histories” of Mitt Romney, but his favorite is written by John Kasich of the Boston Globe, his official approved biographer. Kasich wrote a bestselling book on Romney, oft describing him as a “liberal Ronald Reagan.”
However, in 2007, it was Kasich, in his role of “investigative reporter” to use his hundreds of hours of research and full access to all Romney documents to look into accusations of draft evasion leveled against Romney.
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Last night FauxNoose ran a piece on Jim Jones and The Jonestown thing. They claimed it had new never-b4-seen photos, etc. I saw nothing new. For years we have seen both the party line article on this, and much lesser, the conspiracy theory articles here and there.
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English: This image of a document is from “the Jonestown Institute” at San Diego State University. The image is photo of Jim Jones that is imaged here. The site states that: “Tape transcripts, summaries, some primary source documents, and all photographs on this site are free and available to the public for use by crediting: The Jonestown Institute, http://jonestown.sdsu.edu.” Home Page Permitting Such Usage (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
I recalled that there was one conspiracy theory stuck in my old mind-housing-group about a Special Forces team that had gone into Jonestown before the media came upon the scene.
Press TV: Special Ops con, imaginary warfare and non-existent enemies | Veterans Today (“The whole thing was staged, go somewhere, kill an old man, claim it is Osama bin Laden, move General Petraeus to CIA and he can’t claim he killed bin Laden and run for president.”)
By Gordon Duff and Press TV
With an election book by a SEAL, real or imaginary, out now, it is time for an honest discussion of “Special Operations” from someone who has actually sat through “mission planning” sessions involving three continents.
Thus far, the quotes I have read, of finding an unidentified old man shot but not dead and then shooting his wounded body repeatedly makes
sense.Any old man would do as lying about who it is can easily be done under cloak of secrecy, like lying about the helicopter crash though photos of the downed “carbon fibre stealth helicopter” were in every paper.Witness also so crash dead, crew and SEALS. We lied about that too.Someone may have murdered an old man; we have no idea who neither did they.
The whole thing was a political con.Then, noting from this recent book that SEALS are obsessed with leaking information, we had a record number of SEAL deaths in an air crash in Afghanistan reported soon after, totaling as many dead SEALS as the entire Vietnam War.Let’s start with the con of Vietnam. The US was involved, I am guessing as I am no longer sure of anything, in a Cold War.
Under the surface, however, the world’s banking system, the same one that controls the Federal Reserve, also built up Russia, made deals for their diamonds to join DeBeers “price fixing” and, of course, most of Russia’s spying on America went through Israel and agents like Jonathan Pollard, one of hundreds.Two things come to mind in Vietnam. One was the major effort to blame others for the flow of heroin from the Golden Triangle on a single incident where someone put an ounce of heroin in a body being sent home.
By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor
…..The song walks a tightrope between the greatness and the harsh realities of America. It is a mirror held to our collective faces. It asks, “How long are you going to let this go on?”
Gordon Duff is the only person here at VT who has endured more bayonet charges than he can remember during his visit to Vietnam in 1969. His retrospection of these events has an analogy to Springsteen’s message in Born in the USA.
In Gordon’s case, he is and always will be proud to be a Marine.
But if you asked him what did he while he was in Vietnam he might tell you with his truth scalpel that he killed impoverished, illiterate, oriental agricultural workers who were deemed a national security threat to the United States.
Until a couple of days ago, the CDC had claimed that the swine flu pandemic of 2009 killed roughly 18,500 people. That’s been the “official” number for the last three years. But suddenly, in a burst of revisionist inspiration, the CDC has retroactive altered medical history and announced that as many as half a million people may have died from swine flu after all! (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/swine-flu-likely-claimed-quarter-million-liv…)
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We are strong advocates for the traditional ideas held by the vast majority of Americans in the rural areas of the old South and the Western part of the United States. That, of course, mostly excludes the Left Coast.We are not afraid to say what literally millions of them are thinking. John Rocker was right!We believe that the Constitution of the United States of America is no longer the “supreme law of the land” but it should be. It is NOT a “living document.” It says what it says in clear and concise English.
(Sunday, June 3, 2012 – 2:30 PM) – 220th Consecutive Sunday Rally of the “Veterans Revolution”
to “Save Our Veterans Land” and “Bring Our Homeless Veterans HOME.”
Northeast Corner of Wilshire and San Vicente Boulevards – West Los Angeles (Outside the Los Angeles National Veterans Home, VA Greater West L.A. Healthcare System)
Organized by: “Old Veterans Guard”
Contact: Robert Rosebrock, Director
Phone: 310-490-6495 cell
With California’s Primary Election being held on Tuesday, June 5, fellow Veterans want answers as to what the candidates will do for our disabled and homeless Veterans, particularly President Obama and Congressman Henry Waxman, whose 33rd District maintains the stewardship of the largest VA Veterans Home in the nation, yet Los Angeles is our nation’s capital for homeless Veterans.
It’s a disproven myth, but politicians, keen on dispelling opposition and maintaining militarism, continue to feed the fable.
BY David Sirota
As political memes go, this 30-year Vietnam storyline has been wildly successful, helping presidents silence opposition to the Iraq War, the continued Afghanistan occupation, our expanding drone wars, and, of course, our ever-increasing defense budgets.
Out of all the status-quo-sustaining fables we create out of military history, none are as enduring as Vietnam War myths. Desperate to cobble a pro-war cautionary tale out of a blood-soaked tragedy, we keep reimagining the loss in Southeast Asia not as a policy failure but as the product of an America that dishonored returning troops.
Second Honeymoon. The sword Oliver North used to cut his wedding cake with wife Betsy has been returned after it went missing for 32 years.
By Bob Hanafin, Staff Writer
A “Vietnam Era” Veteran is defined as any Veteran who served during the official time frame of the Vietnam War anywhere in the world as defined by Congress and the Department of Veterans Affairs.
I would assume that even National Guard members who have achieved official Veterans status as defined by the VA would be considered Vietnam Era Veterans.
I’m basically familiar with this, because most of the VA benefits I applied for and got when I served during the war were because I was a Vietnam Era Vet. However, I know that Congress passed a law in 1996 just after I retired from the Pentagon that changed the definition as it applied to those who served in-country Vietnam proper, and those Veterans who served elsewhere. The time frames are different.
Buried stories of decorated Marines resurface for Memorial Day…with a little help from their friends. …by Jim W. Dean, VT editor
[Dear Readers, I am on a one month shooting trip to Berkshire County, Mass., and my home town of Gt. Barrington which Smithsonian.com recently named the best small town in America. I have been shooting historical and arts venues like the Hancock Shaker Village, the Norman Rockwell Museum, to colonial graveyards and, as always, some old WWII vets that are still with us. This footage will be used in future feature articles as VT continues to build our own Net TV presence with in-house produced series material for our international audience. This Memorial Day piece is a rerun from last year, but it is a timeless piece...Jim]
Cpl. Lee H. Phillips – Medal of Honor – Marietta, Georgia KIA – Nov 27th, 1950 – Korea
Sociologist Bill Gibson was recorded in 1987 talking about his book on the Vietnam War (The Perfect War: Techno-War in Vietnam). In this video on YouTube, he touches on many interesting aspects of the war, like the myths and delusions of the U.S. military, its leaders and those of the American people. I watched all 10 parts, which is unusual for me. In Part 10, he accurately foretold that, since the delusions had not yet been shattered, the U.S. would again make wars it could not win.
Darkest Ohio – (VT) President Obama was elected to end the Bush wars, disband Homeland Security, find our friendly TSA workers something more useful to do and to sell the billions of dollars of unused and worthless airport scanners back to Michael Chertoff and Israel.
Jailing a few war criminals, capping gasoline prices and ending the Federal Reserve fiasco might have been nice.
On the whole, the only things keeping Obama from being a miserable failure are people like Mitt Romney, the entire Bush family and the combination of organized crime, foreign spies and drug runners that were running America under Bush and, to a great extent, still are.
Now we are being told that Mitt Romney is a real contender in the election. Romney runs over 1000 secret bank accounts in Switzerland and an uncounted number in the Caymans. In fact, other than inheriting vast wealth and never having had to do a day of real work, Romney may well be scarier than any James Bond bad guy.
It isn’t his religion, though Mormonism is generally seen as political, extremist and even dangerous by a majority of Americans.
Today, we got the following poll results on the war in Afghanistan:
WASHINGTON — Support for the war in Afghanistan has hit a new low and is on par with support for the Vietnam War in the early 1970s, a bad sign for President Barack Obama as he argues that to end the war responsibly the United States must remain in Afghanistan another two years.
Only 27 percent of Americans say they back the war effort, and 66 percent oppose the war, according to an AP-GfK poll released Wednesday.
Fear is pain arising from the anticipation of evil. –Aristotle
I don’t believe in conspiracy theories. However I do believe in conspiracies.
All that’s necessary is to have two or more conspirators conspiring to do something–anything–together.
This includes every imaginable conspiracy, from a couple of kids conspiring to tease other kids, to thieves planning a robbery, to countries creating coalitions against other countries.
Usually conspiracies come out of situations where the facts are known to few and the conspirators remain hidden.
Presently there’s a conspiracy among those creating propaganda for bombing Iran. These war hawk politicians in both the U S and Israel use misinterpreted intelligence and incredulous rationales to argue that Iran should be bombed because they are working toward developing nuclear power.
It’s not enough that Iran doesn’t have nuclear weapons. According to Israeli hawks, Iran must not be allowed to work in the direction of developing nuclear weapons.
That argument is currently too weak to garner enough support from the American public to go into another costly war, primarily because it doesn’t create enough fear.
A conspirator who wanted to see that ingredient added would find a way to create fear in the American public.
Old tricks like those employed to create fear leading to the Iraq war won’t work. No one will easily buy the argument that another Islamic country has WMDs.
Even if fear for Israel is strong enough to make an argument for them, the stock of Israeli nuclear weapons convinces anyone with half a brain that they can defend themselves.
Colonel Schlatter, on his web site, would appear to provide cogent arguments for the theory, that the Vietnamese returned all living Americans in 1973. The problem with this idea, is that it is known by the Colonel to be untrue and only through “sleight of hand” can he try and ignore the true facts.
Vietnam veterans day proclaimed
Whitehouse.gov ^ | 3/29/2012 | president
Posted on Friday, March 30, 2012 2:03:57 PM by fatrat
The White House
Office of the Press Secretary For Immediate Release March 29, 2012 Presidential Proclamation — Vietnam Veterans Day
VIETNAM VETERANS DAY
On January 12, 1962, United States Army pilots lifted more than 1,000 South Vietnamese service members over jungle and underbrush to capture a National Liberation Front stronghold near Saigon. Operation Chopper marked America’s first combat mission against the Viet Cong, and the beginning of one of our longest and most challenging wars. Through more than a decade of conflict that tested the fabric of our Nation, the service of our men and women in uniform stood true. Fifty years after that fateful mission, we honor the more than 3 million Americans who served, we pay tribute to those we have laid to rest, and we reaffirm our dedication to showing a generation of veterans the respect and support of a grateful Nation.
The Vietnam War is a story of service members of different backgrounds, colors, and creeds who came together to complete a daunting mission. It is a story of Americans from every corner of our Nation who left the warmth of family to serve the country they loved. It is a story of patriots who braved the line of fire, who cast themselves into harm’s way to save a friend, who fought hour after hour, day after day to preserve the liberties we hold dear. From Ia Drang to Hue, they won every major battle of the war and upheld the highest traditions of our Armed Forces.
TO ANSWER A QUESTION
In my opinion, there are no “sacred cows” when it comes to the office of the President of the United States of America. At this point, there is a “flying squad” of returned POWs from the Vietnam War protecting the image of Senator John S. McCain. One can but wonder why Senator McCain would require such a team. He is not under attack or even serious scrutiny by the “liberal media.” TV commentators who usually attack anyone who shows a less than pristine bent for the most part are mum on the Arizona Senator.
My concerns are simple. I believe that any and all of the intelligence held by U.S. Government agencies on Senator McCain’s time as a POW must be made available to the media and public. There is too much danger of a President being held hostage by things in the files of Intelligence agencies and, even more dangerous, held in the files of foreign governments in Asia and Europe.
My intentions have nothing to do with any feelings I may harbor toward John McCain personally. I have none. My intentions in all of this have to do with him professionally. They have to do with his treatment of Bui Tin, who I consider nothing more than a “sent agent.” They have to do with his simplistic attitude toward the issue of MIAs and his utterly vile behavior toward those who disagree with him, including family members. Lastly, I feel for any of the “Keating Five” to have the audacity to make “Campaign Reform” the cornerstone of his platform is the height of hypocrisy. He took the money right along with the others. To claim he did not know is not the type of answer one who aspires to be President should give in my opinion. He was responsible, but he did everything in his power to shift the blame. He sounded too much like Clinton for me. He disappointed me in that.
“…it would be far more preferable if the United States could cite an Iranian provocation as justification for the airstrikes before launching them. Clearly, the more outrageous, the more deadly, and the more unprovoked the Iranian action, the better off the United States would be. Of course, it would be very difficult for the United States to goad Iran into such a provocation without the rest of the world recognizing this game, which would then undermine it.
(NaturalNews) A key chemical of one of the most horrifying elements of the Vietnam War — Agent Orange — may soon be unleashed on America’s farmlands. Considered by world nations to be a “Weapon of Mass Destruction” (WMD), Agent Orange was dropped in the millions of gallons on civilian populations during the Vietnam War in order to destroy foliage and poison North Vietnamese soldiers. The former president of the Vietnamese Red Cross, Professor Nhan, described it as, “…a massive violation of human rights of the civilian population, and a weapon of mass destruction.”
A key chemical in that weapon – 2,4-D – is just months away from being dropped on agricultural land across the United States. Dow AgroSciences, which along with DuPont and Monsanto is heavily invested in genetically engineered crops, has petitioned the U.S. government to deregulate a variety of GE corn that’s resistant to 2,4-D, which comprises 50% of the recipe of Agent Orange.
The Cult Surrounding JFK
Had Enough Therapy? ^ | Stuart Schneiderman
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2011 11:14:31 PM by ventanax5
A nation that considers John F. Kennedy one of its greatest presidents is not a serious nation.
Clearly, Americas have been intoxicated by the Kennedy mix of celebrity and martyrdom. They have been fed Kennedy misinformation for decades. As a result, the Kennedy myth has worked as a cultural toxin.
For Perry, Life Was Broadened and Narrowed by the Military
NYT ^ | 11/25/11 | SHERYL GAY STOLBERG
Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2011 12:47:04 AM by BunnySlippers
COLLEGE STATION, Tex. — Rick Perry arrived on the campus of Texas A&M University in the tumultuous fall of 1968, cut his hair short, regulation military style, and donned a uniform. College students across America were rising up against the Vietnam War, but Mr. Perry, a member of the Corps of Cadets here, would not be among them.
“There will be no Columbia, no Berkeley here,” the university president, Earl Rudder, declared that fall. When a small band of antiwar protesters took to the steps of the Memorial Student Center, a building …
HISTORY 102: American Radicalism 1960-1980
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2011 9:08:09 AM by ttjemery
In reaction to what was increasingly perceived as narcissistic materialism and humanitarian complacency of adults by the post-war “Baby Boom” generation of teenagers and twenty-somethings, the narrow victory of moderate Democrat John F. Kennedy over Richard Nixon heralded the beginning of a new era of government power and influence. Now government offered the possibility of not only curbing abuses of big business, but also and especially ending war and protecting the equal rights of groups who allegedly had been discriminated against in the free market, especially women, Blacks and the poor.
Welcome to a Veterans Today magical mystery tour effort today, folks. I took the privilege of dressing up and sharing with you one of the Gordon’s best pieces, and perfect for Veterans Day.
We were having a long call one day in 2010 where he was going over his last bayonet charge story. It was so good I simply said, “Gordon you have to get off the phone and write this all up now, while it is fresh in your mind.”
In my years of interviewing combat vets I have learning you have to get all the material you can while they are ‘on a roll’.
On May 4, 1970, four members of a group of anti-Vietnam War protestors were shot dead and nine others seriously wounded; one of which was permanently paralyzed.
The shots that were fired came from the National Guard that was called in to quell a series of protests aimed against the government’s decision to invade Cambodia. When a shot was heard in front of the troops, some of the troops began to fire into a crowd of students. Soldiers who were interviewed later stated that the tension was high and nerves were unsteady. What had led up to this tension was unceasing vitriolic condemnation of the protestors from many, including President Nixon, who was reported to have called the protestors “Bums… blowing up campuses” and the knowledge that a few nights before, the ROTC building on campus had been burned to the ground. (Source: Department of Education: Kent State.)
The historical context of this tragedy involved a deeply divided society separated by a figurative line in the sand between those who condemned the war and those who believed it was necessary to combat Communism. The divide between these groups was largely based upon age demographics, but deeper down within the crevices of this national dissent was a social inequality centered on a system which only drafted the poor and members of racial minorities to fight what many viewed as an immoral war.
Words to condemn the beliefs of these protestors ranged from calling them radical hippies to unpatriotic rebels both said to be supportive of Communism. The vitriolic hatred was enough to convince many in America that the police brutality seen against the protestors and eventually used in the killing of those at Kent State, was somehow justified.
Today in America, we are facing a similar battle. Though war is still an American obsession, a larger, more encompassing divide has forced the people to the streets to combat injustice once again. Like in the 1960s and ’70s, there is an all-too evident divide between the social injustice and inequality not in the draft of our young men into the killing fields of Vietnam, but in the enlistment of a wider range of age, class and racial orientation of our fellow citizens into the killing fields of our current, economic war.
Occupy Wall Street is addressing this inequality with numbers rivaling its earlier predecessor and has spread across the country with a passion not seen since those unsettled days in our social history. Generated by feelings of betrayal and fueled by the passionate cries of a nation tired of their country being poisoned by corruption and greed which has sent so many of our fellow, hard-working Americans into those fields, the movement is encouraging people to occupy the streets in order to denounce a system that no longer represents them…..
While the mayor and I disagree on most things, he might be onto to something here.
I recently opined that I couldn’t figure out why America’s young people were not already rioting because of the stacks of debt being foisted on their backs by a government that would rather borrow and spend than live within its means.
Young people are starting to figure out that our president conned them in the last election, claiming that he could fix everything, make the world safer, create jobs, provide for everybody, redistribute earnings, coddle the unemployed, etc. With many college graduates having to move back in with their parents, young people are beginning to understand that the president’s policies are anathema to job creation in the private sector.
I remember the riots of the 1960s over the Vietnam War and race relations. Young people back then were socially aware, on the surface, of the conditions that were impacting their lives. The differences between the protesters of the 1960s and the void of angry young people today are stark.
Where are the protests by today’s unemployed and underemployed young people? Why aren’t they demanding answers to fundamental questions about their future? Why aren’t they yelling that hope and change was a con job? Why aren’t they demanding answers to the reality that their generation will be the first in the history of America not to have a future at least as good as what their parents enjoyed?
Who knows? Maybe they can’t break away from playing computer and video games long enough to look around at their condition and the condition of America…..
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com …
The new Cult of the Uniform
I believe that Deresiewicz coined the phrase – new cult of the uniform – accurately noting that it began with the piety and call to “support our troops” during the Iraq war. The [political] slogan played on a collective desire to avoid repeating the mistake of the Vietnam War, when hatred of the conflict spilled over into hostility toward the people who were fighting it.
Supporting the Troops Now Meant You Had to Support the War(s).
William tells us that now the logic’s inverted: “supporting the troops, we were given to understand, meant that you had to support the war. In fact, that’s all it seemed to mean. The ploy was a bait and switch, an act of emotional blackmail. If you opposed the war or questioned the way it was conducted, you undermined our troops.”…………….
Why Obama May Pass on Reelection
Why Obama May Pass on Reelection:
“Political observers of a certain age will remember the night of March 31 1968. At the very end of a long speech about the Vietnam War, President Johnson shocked the nation with his announcement that “I shall not seek, and I will not accept, the nomination of my party for another term as your President.”
Tom Moore and I held a bash recently to celebrate the event of former LCpl Mike Smith showering Jane Fonda with tobacco juice. At that event were former Marines from Texas, Oregon, and Washington State, Marines from Pfc to bird colonel. Lots of locals. Mike received these accolades with the humility which marks him as a sincere and devoted Marine, a Marine who spoke (spat) for us all as an expression of disdain for one who should have been tried for treason and imprisoned.
In April Jane Fonda had a book-signing session in a bookstore in Kansas City. In the line of worshipers waiting to get Fonda to sign her new book was one former CAP Marine who did not share the enthusiasm of the crowd. After about 90 minutes he got to the table where sat Jane Fonda, basking in the admiration of her misled left-wing following. Mike placed the book in front of her, gathered up the oral pressure needed, and blasted her with a mouthful of tobacco juice. Instantly gaining the respect of hundred of thousands of Vietnam vets who had been demeaned and abused by Fonda’s actions supporting the enemies of America, he quickly left the store, walked about fifteen feet beyond the door and waited for the inevitable arrest by the cops.
I have heard some criticism from others who didn’t like the idea that he “ran” from the store. My friends, he didn’t run. He is 60% disabled. But he knew every person in that store was a supporter of Hanoi Jane, so he quickly — as quickly as he could — left the store to avoid whatever might have been in store for him from a hostile crowd.
He was arrested by
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I grew up during World War II. My childhood was influenced by the roles my father played in his movies. Whether Abraham Lincoln or Tom Joad in the Grapes of Wrath, his characters communicated certain values which I try to carry with me to this day. I remember saying goodbye to my father the night he left to join the Navy. He didn’t have to. He was older than other servicemen and had a family to support but he wanted to be a part of the fight against fascism, not just make movies about it. I admired this about him. I grew up with a deep belief that wherever our troops fought, they were on the side of the angels.
For the first 8 years of the Vietnam War I lived in France. I was married to the French film director, Roger Vadim and had my first child. The French had been defeated in their own war against Vietnam a decade before our country went to war there, so when I heard, over and over, French people criticizing our country for our Vietnam War I hated it. I viewed it as sour grapes. I refused to believe we could be doing anything wrong there.
It wasn’t until I began to meet American servicemen who had been in Vietnam and had come to Paris as resisters that I realized I needed to learn more. I took every chance I could to meet with U.S. soldiers. I talked with them and read the books they gave me about the war. I decided I needed to return to my country and join with them—active duty soldiers and Vietnam Veterans in particular—to try and end the war.
It is unconscionable that extremist groups circulate letters which accuse me of horrific things, saying that I am a traitor, that POWs in Hanoi were tied up and in chains and marched passed me while I spat at them and called them ‘baby killers. These letters also say that when the POWs were brought into the room for a meeting I had with them, we shook hands and they passed me tiny slips of paper on which they had written their social security numbers. Supposedly, this was so that I could bring back proof to the U.S. military that they were alive. The story goes on to say that I handed these slips of paper over to the North Vietnamese guards and, as a result, at least one of the men was tortured to death.
That these stories could be given credence shows how little people know of the realities in North Vietnam prisons at the time. The U.S. government and the POW families didn’t need me to tell them who the prisoners were. They had all their names. Moreover, according to even the most hardcore senior officers, torture stopped late in 1969, two and a half years before I got there. And, most importantly, I would never say such things to our servicemen, whom I respect, whether or not I agree with the mission they have been sent to perform, which is not of their choosing.
But these lies have circulated for almost forty years, continually reopening the wound of the Vietnam War and causing pain to families of American servicemen. The lies distort the truth of why I went to North Vietnam and they perpetuate the myth that being anti-war means being anti-soldier.
(Excerpt) Read more at janefonda.com …
FORT BELVOIR, Va. — A homemade wind chime with the word “Whining” under a red slash is made from metal parts put in his leg after a parachute accident. Every Sunday he trims his crew cut. He didn’t join the Army willingly, but as Command Sgt. Maj. Jeff Mellinger prepares to retire, he’s grateful he found his calling.
Mellinger was drafted to fight the Vietnam War, and the Army believes he’s the last draftee to retire, after 39 years. Most did their two years and left. But Mellinger had found home.
“I think I’m pretty good at it, but I like it. That’s the bottom line. I love being a soldier and I love being around soldiers,” he said.
Mellinger’s motto is simple: No whining — as the wind chime attests.
When the draft notice arrived in the mail in 1972 at his home in Eugene, Ore., tens of thousands of troops had been killed. Anti-war protests were rampant. Draft notices were being set on fire and returning soldiers were treated as part of the problem. The military wasn’t a popular job.
“I opened it up and it said, `Greetings from the president of the United States.’ I said, `Wow, how’s he know me?”‘ Mellinger said, laughing. “It was a form letter that said my friends and neighbors had selected me to represent them in the Armed Forces and I was hereby ordered to report for induction.”
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com …
Bringing Osama to the sea: The president must provide conclusive evidence of bin Laden’s death
The Hill ^ | 05/02/11 | Bernie Quigley
Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 12:51:44 PM by Qbert
The first reports of Osama bin Laden’s death told us that he was buried within 24 hours of his death, and “at sea,” because “finding a country willing to accept the remains of the world’s most [notorious] terrorist would have been difficult.” So we would assume there would be physical evidence of the death if there is no body.
Because if I have this right, “the sea” is at least 800 miles from the Abbottabad region of Pakistan where reports say bin Laden was killed. How did they get him from there to the sea? Did they drop him out of an airplane or travel by land convoy 800 miles with the six-and-a-half-foot corpse? Then other reports said the body was delivered to Afghanistan. Did they bring him to Afghanistan and then bring him to the sea? That would have been more than a thousand miles to haul the corpse.