Steve Klein is a Vietnam veteran (USMC). He was attached to South Vietnamese militia from 1968-1970. He acted as a translator and negotiator. Also, he organized ambushes on remaining Viet Cong cells as well as North Vietnamese Army elements. From 1970 until 1973 he earned his bachelors degree in political science from University of California at Long Beach. He became a commissioned officer in the Marine Corps in 1974. He served as a communications officer until leaving the Marine Corps in 1977.
Since 1977 he started Courageous Christians United (now he is the secretary). He also founded M.E.E.T. – Middle Eastern Experts’ Team. Through MEET and his contacts with the Coptic community he has been asked to give his insights to the FBI and the U.S. Marine Corps.
by Jim Emerson, staff writer
War is an ugly endeavor fought by brave warriors at the behest of national leaders. In the heat of battle soldiers are killed, wounded, captured or go missing. Prisoners captured during battle are at the mercy of the enemy. Despite laws created by gentleman’s agreement in an international forum, history has shown that combatant nations have abused, tortured and killed prisoners captured on the battlefield. After World War II, Russia would declare a Prisoner of War (POW) a war criminal and hold them well beyond the end of hostilities. It has become a standard practice of Communist nations to hold prisoners long after wars’ end, making the process of accounting for the dead or missing difficult if not impossible.
From Viet Nam Defiance to Boston Surrender….. “Historically, what separated American society from most other countries was a healthy distrust of government and a tradition of civil liberties.” | Veterans Today
From Viet Nam Defiance to Boston Surrender
Boston Massacre Media Diversion
Historically, what separated American society from most other countries was a healthy distrust of government and a tradition of civil liberties. The Bill of Rights is a unique safeguard embodied within the constitutional structure of a road map for governmental restraint. One of the most important restrictions placed upon the police powers of the central government is exemplified in Posse Comitias. The militarization of domestic law enforcement is fundamentally in conflict with individual rights and natural law.
The basic character of the American spirit envisioned narrow intrusion into the personal affairs of citizens. The federal government is burdened with thoughtful and precise limitations on its powers for the essential reason to inhibit the aggressive expansion of despotic tendencies. Once upon another era, the people of the Republic understood this vital social construct of control against the destruction of liberty, by the very government entrusted to preserve the essence of the union.
Fifty years ago, the nation entered into a morass of a foreign conflict that altered the very fabric and substance of the post World War II mentality. As the Viet Nam war expanded, the consciousness of a youthful generation exploded into a fundamental counter cultural resistance against the mindset that built the military-industrial-complex and perpetuated an interventionist global foreign policy.
The campuses and streets of America were filled with swarms of dissenters opposing the war and the repression of a burgeoning police state. The gambit of defiant speeches to civil disobedience saw the corridors of power crumple in the wake of a nation galvanized against the Sovietization of our authorities, when the war, was supposedly fought, to stop the spread of Communism.
Special Forces Green Beret Master Sgt. John Hartley Robertson had forgotten how to speak English over the 44 years since he was left behind in the Vietnam War. But he never forgot that he was a father, husband and an American soldier, born in Alabama, shot down over Laos in a 1968 classified mission.
The Toronto Star ^ | 04/25/13 | Linda Barnard
Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2013 10:37:38 AM by mkleesma
Medal of Honor Recipient: New Drone Medal is ‘Ludicrous’
U.S. Naval Institute ^ | 3/14/2013 | U.S. Naval Institute
Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2013 4:10:05 PM by Saint X
The creation of the new medal honoring unmanned vehicle pilots and cyber troops, “is a telling and sad commentary on the judgment of those who are responsible for the creation and approval of this award,” Jack Jacobs, Medal of Honor recipient and Vietnam veteran, told USNI News on Wednesday.
Story of murder, narcotrafficing and environmental contamination written by two Marine veterans IRVINE, CA and CAMP LEJEUNE, NC – Marine Colonel Jim Sabow placed his television on mute, arose from his easy chair, and left his house on Fifth Street at Marine Corps Air Station El Toro through the patio door.
He walked the length of the patio, called the dogs, which were in the back yard and enclosed them in the garage. This was a practice he routinely followed when visitors were expected. Whether he opened the front door to greet his visitors or went out the back door onto his patio is not known, but we do know that he had only moments to live.
Colonel Sabow, decorated Vietnam fighter with 221 combat missions, met his death at the hands of others.
The unexpected blow to the right side of the head was violent, resulting in unconsciousness. Occipital skull fragments penetrated into the back of his brain. He was near death due to the massive brainstem trauma in which agonal hyperventilation characteristic of this type of injury occurs. Sabow was aspirating blood from a wound in his pharynx that resulted from a basilar skull fracture. In fact, the tracheae, bronchi, bronchioles and alveoli were filled with blood, doubling the weight of the right lung. His shotgun was found under his body. No fingerprints on the shotgun. No suicide note.
There was no mention of the tramline bruise, an indicator of the violent blow to his head, in the autopsy report or the crime scene tampering by three men who flashed government credentials, forcing Naval Investigative Service NIS agents to leave the crime scene.The motive for the murder was to prevent the disclosure of a covert operation to ferry weapons to Central and South America and government sanctioned narcotrafficing on flights into El Toro.
Data processing records were purged on the maintenance of unmarked C-130s; a Marine with knowledge to purge the records unexpectedly promoted, transferred and murdered several years later. Other Marines who knew of the illegal drugs would meet violent deaths.
You’re better off reading the transcript at Newsbusters than watching the clip, which, for some reason, excludes two of Matthews’s references to “flashbacks.” Halfway through it, I thought he was using “flashback” and “nightmare” as some sort of extremely ill-advised metaphor for what McCain was feeling yesterday while interrogating Hagel. Tasteless, yes, but just a metaphor. Quote:
A resentment not against the North Vietnamese who imprisoned and toured him all those years, not against George W. Bush and his political henchmen who tried to stain McCain’s reputation back in 2000, but against a guy who fought against fear and rallied against wounds just like he did in the same army of America’s long nightmare in Vietnam, Chuck Hagel. A nightmare by the way whose flashbacks must haunt still the mind and heart of John Sidney McCain.
When I heard the inevitable, that Obama, Leon Panetta, and General Dempsey finally caved into the ACLU, which sued to push women into hot combat zones, I thought back to my tour in Vietnam, when we would fly our Marine helicopters into Landing Zones which were north of the DMZ, and inhabited by Marine grunts – for months at a time.
The guys were, quite remarkably, in good spirit, but hadn’t bathed, of course, for weeks or more, and many people would say they were living like animals in an outpost far, far out there in the boonies of, literally, no man’s land.
No place for women, no matter how manly, and no place especially for someone half-way pretty. I was medevaced out of Nam in 1970, and witnessed the wounded fighting men who were shot-up while in the various hospitals.
Believe it or not, I like getting e-mails from military veterans.
I do admit, though, that this might seem like the last thing anyone would expect after looking through my LRC article archive and reading all the negative things I have written about the U.S. military.
I have termed U.S. soldiers invaders, occupiers, killers, destroyers, criminals, and murderers. I have placed the responsibility on them for their actions. I have charged them with helping to carry out an evil U.S. foreign policy as the president’s personal attack force. I have blamed them for putting their families through unimaginable and unnecessary suffering. I have said of the U.S. soldiers who died in Iraq and Afghanistan that they died unnecessarily, duped, for a lie, in vain, and in vain again.
Wearing a government suit doesn't make it so, says Laurence Vance.
In the essay below, Vance wrote: "This means that not only are U.S. troops off the hook for killing tens of thousands of people in Iraq and Afghanistan (and millions in Germany, Japan, Korea, and Vietnam), but that German soldiers who killed Polish, Russian, British, French, and…
Fastidiousness is never a good sign in a general officer. Though strutting military peacocks go back to Alexander’s time, our first was MacArthur, who seemed at times to care more about how much gold braid decorated the brim of his cap than he did about how many bodies he left on beachheads across the Pacific. Next came Westmoreland, with his starched fatigues in Vietnam. In our time, Gen. David H. Petraeus has set the bar high. Never has so much beribboned finery decorated a general’s uniform since Al Haig passed through the sally ports of West Point on his way to the White House.
(GyG: What “The Folks” Are Sayin’) ~ Rendezvous with Destiny… (“…..Who would have thought that it would fall to us, some of us in our so-called declining years (unless 60 is the new 40) to rescue the Republic? In our lifetimes, we have had the war in Vietnam, and the Reagan revival, and now we find the left has been tunneling under us all along. Last Tuesday, the platform we thought was solid collapsed…”)
…..Who would have thought that it would fall to us, some of us in our so-called declining years (unless 60 is the new 40) to rescue the Republic? In our lifetimes, we have had the war in Vietnam, and the Reagan revival, and now we find the left has been tunneling under us all along. Last Tuesday, the platform we thought was solid collapsed as if its underpinnings had been eaten by termites, which they had.
THIS IS AN EXCERPT:
For years, many veterans and active military have been alarmed about the idiocy of the changes in battlefield evacuation known as Dust Off.
According to Gen. Creighton Abrams, former U.S. Army chief of staff and former supreme commander in Vietnam: “A special word about the Dust Offs … Courage above and beyond the call of duty was sort of routine to them. It was a daily thing, part of the way they lived. That’s the great part, and it meant so much to every last man who served there. Whether he ever got hurt or not, he knew Dust Off was there. It was a great thing for our people.”
…..After Vietnam, special ops groups were shut down because so many had been involved in drugs, black market and prostitution. Funding was ended, units disbanded, the idea of special operations discarded as a distraction until the fiasco in Iranduring the Carter era.
Why A Marine Corps
Email from MiliNet (an intel source for retired and prior service Marines and others) | 22 Aug 2010 | Col G. I. Wilson, USMC (Ret.) and H. Thomas Hayden
Posted on Monday, August 23, 2010 1:31:52 AM by dcwusmc
MILINET: WHY A MARINE CORPS
By: Col. G.I. Wilson, USMC (Ret.) & H. Thomas Hayden
Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates recently said that he had ordered a review of the future role of the Marine Corps amid “anxiety” that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan had turned the service into a “second land army.”
In remarks for a speech at Marines’ Memorial Theatre in San Francisco Gates said that the review would seek to define a 21st century combat mission for the Marines that is distinct from the Army’s, because the Marines “do not want to be, nor does America need” another ground combat force.
…..This vid contains one of the most awesome, inspiring and truthful speeches ever given by a president. This very speech must have caused a lot of panic among the higher echelons of the elite. Kennedy had been in office for only 3 months and he was already taking unprecedented steps to empower ordinary people.
Kennedy did more for civil rights than any other president since Abraham Lincoln. Kennedy was a big supporter of the constitution, he was against the tyranny of big government. He wanted to withdraw US troops from Vietnam.
Press TV: Special Ops con, imaginary warfare and non-existent enemies | Veterans Today (“The whole thing was staged, go somewhere, kill an old man, claim it is Osama bin Laden, move General Petraeus to CIA and he can’t claim he killed bin Laden and run for president.”)
By Gordon Duff and Press TV
With an election book by a SEAL, real or imaginary, out now, it is time for an honest discussion of “Special Operations” from someone who has actually sat through “mission planning” sessions involving three continents.
Thus far, the quotes I have read, of finding an unidentified old man shot but not dead and then shooting his wounded body repeatedly makes
sense.Any old man would do as lying about who it is can easily be done under cloak of secrecy, like lying about the helicopter crash though photos of the downed “carbon fibre stealth helicopter” were in every paper.Witness also so crash dead, crew and SEALS. We lied about that too.Someone may have murdered an old man; we have no idea who neither did they.
The whole thing was a political con.Then, noting from this recent book that SEALS are obsessed with leaking information, we had a record number of SEAL deaths in an air crash in Afghanistan reported soon after, totaling as many dead SEALS as the entire Vietnam War.Let’s start with the con of Vietnam. The US was involved, I am guessing as I am no longer sure of anything, in a Cold War.
Under the surface, however, the world’s banking system, the same one that controls the Federal Reserve, also built up Russia, made deals for their diamonds to join DeBeers “price fixing” and, of course, most of Russia’s spying on America went through Israel and agents like Jonathan Pollard, one of hundreds.Two things come to mind in Vietnam. One was the major effort to blame others for the flow of heroin from the Golden Triangle on a single incident where someone put an ounce of heroin in a body being sent home.
“Locked & Loaded” – Vietnam Veteran Calls for More Guns – henrymakow.com… (“Please forward the video of the 71-year-old Florida hero to everyone you know. The bought and paid for news media surely won’t highlight it………….”)
Instead of gun control, the Colorado shooting is an argument for us to be armed.
If one patron had a weapon the loss of life could been adverted, at least to an extent.
Having a concealed permit to carry is Bull Sh**.
We have the right to carry arms in a holster, on our side.
It was declared by the Wisconsin Attorney General last year,
publicly in a Milwaukee Newspaper.
If one movie viewing patron had a weapon it could have been prevented.
More and more buildings have signs posted ‘No Weapons, Gun, Knives, etc.etc.. They should have had signs reading.. ‘concealed carry approved for this building.’
…..The song walks a tightrope between the greatness and the harsh realities of America. It is a mirror held to our collective faces. It asks, “How long are you going to let this go on?”
Gordon Duff is the only person here at VT who has endured more bayonet charges than he can remember during his visit to Vietnam in 1969. His retrospection of these events has an analogy to Springsteen’s message in Born in the USA.
In Gordon’s case, he is and always will be proud to be a Marine.
But if you asked him what did he while he was in Vietnam he might tell you with his truth scalpel that he killed impoverished, illiterate, oriental agricultural workers who were deemed a national security threat to the United States.
In America today just like in Lake Woebegone every child is above average and every child gets a trophy. We may score low in international grade comparisons but we rank number one in self-esteem. In other words American students may not be doing well but they think they are.
Those of us old enough to remember how Dad could control the situation with a look and when you got in trouble in school your parents didn’t sue or contact the School Board you got in trouble at home too are also old enough to remember Watergate.
Let The Killing Begin With The Guilty This Time
By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor
I served as a Marine infantryman in Vietnam. Raised on war propaganda, political claptrap and only mildly suspicious that America had been overthrown in the Coup de Etat on November 22, 1963, I was going to do my part. The idea of someone else fighting and dying in my place sickened me.
Little did I know the vast majority of Americans, hawks, “chickenhawks,” so many I find myself amazed, looked on my way of thinking as insane.
It’s a disproven myth, but politicians, keen on dispelling opposition and maintaining militarism, continue to feed the fable.
BY David Sirota
As political memes go, this 30-year Vietnam storyline has been wildly successful, helping presidents silence opposition to the Iraq War, the continued Afghanistan occupation, our expanding drone wars, and, of course, our ever-increasing defense budgets.
Out of all the status-quo-sustaining fables we create out of military history, none are as enduring as Vietnam War myths. Desperate to cobble a pro-war cautionary tale out of a blood-soaked tragedy, we keep reimagining the loss in Southeast Asia not as a policy failure but as the product of an America that dishonored returning troops.
By Bob Hanafin, Staff Writer
A “Vietnam Era” Veteran is defined as any Veteran who served during the official time frame of the Vietnam War anywhere in the world as defined by Congress and the Department of Veterans Affairs.
I would assume that even National Guard members who have achieved official Veterans status as defined by the VA would be considered Vietnam Era Veterans.
I’m basically familiar with this, because most of the VA benefits I applied for and got when I served during the war were because I was a Vietnam Era Vet. However, I know that Congress passed a law in 1996 just after I retired from the Pentagon that changed the definition as it applied to those who served in-country Vietnam proper, and those Veterans who served elsewhere. The time frames are different.
In 1951, American conservative William F. Buckley published God and Man at Yale. In his book, Buckley slammed Yale’s faculty for turning American liberal ideology into a religion and force-feeding it to Yale’s unsuspecting student body.
By the late 1960s, the left-leaning ideological mindset that Buckley criticized no doubt encouraged the widespread opposition at Yale to the Vietnam Conflict –opposition that turned out to be justified by the facts on the ground in Vietnam. During those days, any notion that an American four-star general involved in the Vietnam debacle, someone like General William C. Westmoreland, should teach a course on leadership at Yale would have been dismissed out of hand as utterly ridiculous.
Fast-forward to 2012 and reality has been turned on its head. Enter retired four-star Army General Stanley McChrystal. McChrystal, who formerly led special operations forces in Iraq and Afghanistan and later became a senior American commander in Afghanistan, now teaches a class at Yale’s Grand Strategy Program, where he integrates his military experience with his studies on leadership.
Sociologist Bill Gibson was recorded in 1987 talking about his book on the Vietnam War (The Perfect War: Techno-War in Vietnam). In this video on YouTube, he touches on many interesting aspects of the war, like the myths and delusions of the U.S. military, its leaders and those of the American people. I watched all 10 parts, which is unusual for me. In Part 10, he accurately foretold that, since the delusions had not yet been shattered, the U.S. would again make wars it could not win.
President Obama has spent the last three years trying to figure out how to turn over Afghanistan to the Taliban without taking the political heat for it.
In the process, the Obama Administration has committed a betrayal of our troops so stunning that anything done to them in or after Vietnam pales in comparison.
People ask how we got into our splendid mess in Iraq and why we can’t get out. The question is a subset of a larger question: Why, since WWII, have so many first-world armies gotten into drawn-out guerrilla wars in bush-world countries, and lost? Examples abound: France in Vietnam, America in Vietnam, France in Algeria, Russia in Afghanistan, Israel in Lebanon, etc. Why don’t they learn?
Recently, one of these forums here contained mention, in part, of the subject of “fragging” in Vietnam. People seldom mention personal knowledge of such things, although the subject has been discussed in detail long since Vietnam days. What made me think of this was that one of the posters who brought up the subject, was shortly thereafter responded to by another poster who took the poster to task for seemingly condoning such a thing.
I intended to begin this post with that thread, but I cannot seem to locate it now. Regretable, as the responder had stated to the effect that “fragging” was murder, and that no Marine should be a party to and/or condone murder. in any case, I applaud the now unknown responder who had both the decency and courage to respond as he did.
The following are some excerpts from articles on the topic. I am surprised that there is not more material available on this subject.
The following from the thread…
The Collapse Of The U.S. Armed Forces“
“Frag incidents” or just “fragging” is current soldier slang in Vietnam for the murder or attempted murder of strict, unpopular, or just aggressive officers and NCOs. With extreme reluctance (after a young West Pointer from Senator Mike Mansfield’s Montana was fragged in his sleep) the Pentagon has now disclosed that fraggings in 1970(109) have more than doubled those of the previous year (96).
Word of the deaths of officers will bring cheers at troop movies or in bivouacs of certain units.
In one such division — the morale plagued Americal — fraggings during 1971 have been authoritatively estimated to be running about one a week.
Yet fraggings, though hard to document, form part of the ugly lore of every war. The first such verified incident known to have taken place occurred 190 years ago when Pennsylvania soldiers in the Continental Army killed one of their captains during the night of 1 January 1781.”
“A Comparison Of Marine and army Performance”
…..The case of United States Government persecution of Garwood is based, not on his guilt or innocence, but on his embarrassing said Government, by returning home.
When returned POWs are pushed forward to write and speak about Bob Garwood, before listening to them, one must insure there is no chain of guilt that holds them hostage to a Government program of persecuting those who embarrass it. In the case of Frank Anton, this is, sadly true.
Garwood has been maligned, verbally and mentally tortured by our Government. He has nothing. No medical care. No back pay. No Purple Heart for acknowledged wounds.
But in one way, he is in a better position than many other returned POWs. Every stumble he made, every crime, real or imagined, have been thrown into his face again and again. But he is not hostage to an imaginary background of heroism and honor, that is based on a lie. In that regard, he is more fortunate than so many returned POWs.
Former Prisoner of War
- TO: MY FELLOW CALIFORNIANS FROM: MAJOR (RETIRED) MARK A. SMITH FORMER PRISONER OF WAR… dornan (gunnyg.wordpress.com)
- TO ANSWER A QUESTION (Re John McCain, POW, Candidate for President, Etc.)jmquestions.htm (gunnyg.wordpress.com)
- New web site details how DIA manipulates intelligence on US POWs (network54.com)
- The POWs We Left Behind (network54.com)
- Why I Cannot Support Senator John McCain for President ~ 29 August 1999moremccain.htm (gunnyg.wordpress.com)
- Former U.S. ambassador to Cambodia continues criminal POW/MIA cover-up (network54.com)
- Castro gave POW ransom plan to Vietnam (network54.com)
- Maghaberry. Continuity Ira Pows Easter Statement 2012 (thefivedemands.org)
- You: Aussies get data on 4,500 POWs (japantimes.co.jp)
- British POW Uses Morse Code to Stitch Hidden Message During WWII (wired.com)
Colonel Schlatter, on his web site, would appear to provide cogent arguments for the theory, that the Vietnamese returned all living Americans in 1973. The problem with this idea, is that it is known by the Colonel to be untrue and only through “sleight of hand” can he try and ignore the true facts.
People ask how we got into our splendid mess in Iraq and why we can’t get out. The question is a subset of a larger question: Why, since WWII, have so many first-world armies gotten into drawn-out guerrilla wars in bush-world countries, and lost? Examples abound: France in Vietnam, America in Vietnam, France in Algeria, Russia in Afghanistan, Israel in Lebanon, etc. Why don’t they learn?
The answer I think is that militaries are influenced by a kind of man — call him the Warrior — who by nature is unsuited for modern wars. He doesn’t understand them, can’t adapt to them.
The Warrior is emotionally suited to pitched, Pattonesque battles of moral clarity and simple intent. I don’t mean that he is stupid. Among fighter pilots and in the Special Forces for example it is not uncommon to find men with IQs of 145. Yet emotionally the Warrior has the uncomplicated instincts of a pit bull. Intensely loyal to friends and intensely hostile to the enemy, he doesn’t want any confusion as to which is which. His tolerance for ambiguity is very low. He wants to close with the enemy and destroy him.
Vietnam veterans day proclaimed
Whitehouse.gov ^ | 3/29/2012 | president
Posted on Friday, March 30, 2012 2:03:57 PM by fatrat
The White House
Office of the Press Secretary For Immediate Release March 29, 2012 Presidential Proclamation — Vietnam Veterans Day
VIETNAM VETERANS DAY
On January 12, 1962, United States Army pilots lifted more than 1,000 South Vietnamese service members over jungle and underbrush to capture a National Liberation Front stronghold near Saigon. Operation Chopper marked America’s first combat mission against the Viet Cong, and the beginning of one of our longest and most challenging wars. Through more than a decade of conflict that tested the fabric of our Nation, the service of our men and women in uniform stood true. Fifty years after that fateful mission, we honor the more than 3 million Americans who served, we pay tribute to those we have laid to rest, and we reaffirm our dedication to showing a generation of veterans the respect and support of a grateful Nation.
The Vietnam War is a story of service members of different backgrounds, colors, and creeds who came together to complete a daunting mission. It is a story of Americans from every corner of our Nation who left the warmth of family to serve the country they loved. It is a story of patriots who braved the line of fire, who cast themselves into harm’s way to save a friend, who fought hour after hour, day after day to preserve the liberties we hold dear. From Ia Drang to Hue, they won every major battle of the war and upheld the highest traditions of our Armed Forces.
Let’s stipulate that this is purely conjecture.
OK.But can you remember or find an instance in the history of the United States when voters changed presidents during a war?Go ahead and look it up.
The beliefs of America’s leaders are deeply ingrained. They have been recruited and made leaders because they have those beliefs and hold them quite inflexibly. For example, American leaders believe in making wars conducted by the state, including such military wars as Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, and such social wars as the war on drugs and the war on poverty. In this belief, America’s leaders are supported by large numbers of Americans, enough so that they can institute and carry on these wars.
“FIRE THE LYING EMPLOYEE”
by One Pissed-off Vietnam Vet, Presidential Candidate
Does Congress pass “transparent,” constitutional legislation, or does much of its work need to be undone?
(Feb. 1, 2012) — Knock-knock, Reality Check here. When I was a little tyke, eight and a half, I remember my first Cub Scout Jamboree when I was looking forward to my first night away from home and my first night in a sleeping bag. Very exciting, and I wanted everything to go as smoothly as possible. So when I was checking my equipment the night before, I noticed an annoying tag on the outside of my rolled-up sleeping bag, or in today’s PC jargon, REM inducer unit, that proclaimed the removal of the tag was “Punishable by Law.” My brother said, “You better not! You’ll get in trouble!” at which point I ripped the tag off and waited for the retribution. And I waited. After around five minutes I figured the authorities planned to ambush me when my guard was down, but I never let my guard down, and here it is, 50+ years later, and I can testify that if you never let your guard down, it’ll be okay.
There are some things that can be corrected, and then there are the things that can’t be corrected. A “can’t be” example would be when I was driving to the store and my kid was riding shotgun, in the baby seat, and his window was opened a little and he took the pacifier out of his mouth and held it out the window. He looked at me and I said, “If you drop it, it’s gone.”.
‘It’s Going To Be a Hell of a Day’: Declassified JFK Tapes Reveal President’s Sense of Foreboding About Fateful Trip to Dallas
Newly released tapes recorded by President John F. Kennedy reveal his feeling of foreboding just before his assassination.
‘Monday?,’ he says. ‘Well that’s a tough day.’
‘It’s a hell of a day, Mr. President,’ a staffer replies.
The John F. Kennedy Presidential Library and Museum is releasing the last 45 hours of more than 260 hours of privately recorded meetings, conversations and phone calls.
They include discussions about the conflict in Vietnam, Soviet relations and the race to space, plans for the 1964 Democratic Convention and re-election strategy. There are also tender moments with his children.
But some of the material captured on the cassettes is still deemed so sensitive to national security they have to remain classified.
In college in the 1960s I was not a political person. Although I took a keen interest in politics, especially in the war that was raging in Vietnam, I concentrated on my studies, earning a living, and chasing women. After I began work as a professor, in 1968, I gravitated quickly from my collegiate New Leftism toward classical liberalism. As I learned more about Austrian economics, political economy, public choice, and history, I became increasingly libertarian (minarchist variety).
As many of you already know, I volunteer at the “National Veterans Hotline” a few nights per month.
The hotline website can be found at http://www.Veterans911.com Last night, I was on duty for close to four hours and during that time I talked to over twenty callers. 90% of the callers had something to say about the story of Marines pissing on the dead Taliban. Here are some of the comments I heard and then some of the emails I recieved since the incident of Marines pissing on Taliban.
From that second onward, I knew I was listening to pure unadulterated bull from a carefully coached neocon stooge using his military service to sell out his country. There is no bigger veteran supporter than Jesse Ventura. There is also no bigger enemy to the crooks that have used our military against our own country than Ventura.
This is why Jesse is the real hero and why he is feared.
THE MOST POWERFUL SINGLE PIECE OF JOURNALISM IN AMERICAN HISTORY
YouTube – Veterans Today -
The claim by a Kris Kyle seems a bit hollow. Those who know Jesse claim he never would have said it. The story goes like this, back in 2006, Jesse Ventura went into a bar he frequents in Coronado, CA. This “Kyle” character says Jesse was “badmouthing the war. The mythology begins:
Kyle then claims he decked Ventura, a former pro-wrestler, and “ran out of the building.” The run part I understand. Everything else is unsupported. What is supported is that “Kyle” has a book out claiming he is a great war hero, a sniper who killed hundreds of “insurgents” in Afghanistan.
I know a bit about stuff. Part of my time in Vietnam was spent as a sniper. In real life, and this is how we have to be, snipers are seen as “backshooting cowards” by the rest of the military. Even with the old equipment we had, I could hit 3 people, “pink mist,” before they knew it from so far away it would take them an hour to get there, terrain as it is.
I didn’t like it, it felt “dishonorable” to me but this is just my opinion. I never had to walk a hundred miles to kill an NVA general and evade trackers for weeks, like I read in books that I suspect are 99% fiction.
FOR WHOM WILL THEY COME FIRST?
by One Pissed-off Vietnam Vet
Pastor Martin Niemoller was imprisoned by the Nazis in 1937 and again in 1938 following his release on the charge that his first sentence had been “too lenient” (Wikipedia). Does this resemble anything happening in America today?
(Jan. 9, 2012) — When I was in the service and traveled around the world, I always asked people what they thought of America, and from the hills of Parthenon to Mt. Fuji, the answer was invariably that they liked the American people but couldn’t understand the American’s foreign policy. I used to say “Welcome to the club”, and it’s still that way: our State Dept. always seem to back the wrong side. I used to think that the Ivy Leaguers had some sort of agenda, some sort of Master Plan, but now that I’m older and wiser I now know that they really don’t know what the heck they’re doing.
(NaturalNews) A key chemical of one of the most horrifying elements of the Vietnam War — Agent Orange — may soon be unleashed on America’s farmlands. Considered by world nations to be a “Weapon of Mass Destruction” (WMD), Agent Orange was dropped in the millions of gallons on civilian populations during the Vietnam War in order to destroy foliage and poison North Vietnamese soldiers. The former president of the Vietnamese Red Cross, Professor Nhan, described it as, “…a massive violation of human rights of the civilian population, and a weapon of mass destruction.”
A key chemical in that weapon – 2,4-D – is just months away from being dropped on agricultural land across the United States. Dow AgroSciences, which along with DuPont and Monsanto is heavily invested in genetically engineered crops, has petitioned the U.S. government to deregulate a variety of GE corn that’s resistant to 2,4-D, which comprises 50% of the recipe of Agent Orange.
Ron Paul Goes Full Metal Truther
Posted on Saturday, December 10, 2011 6:53:36 PM by mnehring
I’ve been waiting for quite a while for Ron Paul to just come out and admit he’s a 9/11 truther. Frankly, I thought it would happen a long time before now. It has taken so long, in fact, that I had started to doubt whether he would ever do it. However, I guess his Iowa polling numbers must have him feeling his oats, because he finally let slip (apologies to those who cannot view the video in IE, we are working to fix the technical issue. Original video may be found here):
And it’s… just think of what happened after 9/11. Immediately, before there was any assessment, there was glee in the administration because now we can invade Iraq. So the war drums beat…
Perfect. Just great. Remember that the less crazy truthers out there don’t get bogged down in scientific nonsense like “fire can’t melt steel.” They don’t necessarily believe that the Bush administration actually put bombs in the WTC to help it come down (although they’re not precisely ruling it out). What they DO believe is that the U.S. government was warned by the Israelis/Saudis/French/whoever that the attacks were coming and deliberately ignored it because they wanted 9/11 to happen so they could go to war in Afghanistan and Iraq.
The Cult Surrounding JFK
Had Enough Therapy? ^ | Stuart Schneiderman
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2011 11:14:31 PM by ventanax5
A nation that considers John F. Kennedy one of its greatest presidents is not a serious nation.
Clearly, Americas have been intoxicated by the Kennedy mix of celebrity and martyrdom. They have been fed Kennedy misinformation for decades. As a result, the Kennedy myth has worked as a cultural toxin.
…..Pearl Harbor was invaded.
Men went to war. All of the men. Except for me. I wasn’t born but if I was I certainly would not have gone. But that’s another story.
With all the men at war, women went to work.
With July 11, 1993 return of former Marine private Robert Garwood, former N.C. congressman Billy Hendon, and Sen. Bob Smith (R-New Hampshire) from Vietnam, more evidence has been revealed that Vietnam continues to lie about American POWs still in their possession.
Garwood has been the center of controversy since his return to the United States from Vietnam in 1979, six years after the United States government told the American public there were no prisoners left in Vietnam and 14 years after his capture in 1965.
When Garwood secured his release through the efforts of the Red Cross, he came home and was court-martialed for collaborating with the enemy, desertion, assault on a fellow prisoner and other charges. He was found guilty of assault and collaborating with the enemy, was dishonorably discharged from the Marine Corps and forfeited 14 years of back pay.
UPI ^ | 14 November, 2011 | UPI
Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2011 9:54:08 AM by marktwain
But while he gained his freedom Friday after seven months in the Fulton County Jail, former Marine David Sturdivant, who served four tours of duty in Vietnam and received a Purple Heart, has lost a kidney after being shot by a police officer, his home, his business and all his possessions, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported.
Welcome to a Veterans Today magical mystery tour effort today, folks. I took the privilege of dressing up and sharing with you one of the Gordon’s best pieces, and perfect for Veterans Day.
We were having a long call one day in 2010 where he was going over his last bayonet charge story. It was so good I simply said, “Gordon you have to get off the phone and write this all up now, while it is fresh in your mind.”
In my years of interviewing combat vets I have learning you have to get all the material you can while they are ‘on a roll’.