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What do you think about questions concerning Obama’s birth certificate?

It’s a tempest in a teapot. Obama was born in Hawaii
Get over it. This is last minute desperation from sore losers
I don’t really care where Obama was born. He’s the greatest hope for America
We’re in a global civilization. That archaic rule about U.S. birthplace should be tossed
It’s mystifying. Why not just produce a genuine birth certificate?
I don’t know what to make of it
An issue over a birth certificate is the least of the reasons Obama should be disqualified
Obama should be forced to produce his real birth certificate now!
Where’s the controlling legal authority?
It’s shocking that at this late stage we just don’t know the facts
Obama’s relatives swear they were present when Barack was born in Kenya. I believe them
With all the evidence available at this time, it seems Obama is not a natural-born citizen, and therefore is ineligible to be president
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RE: Obama Birth Certificate
Posted by Frank Lee on Oct 22, 2008 17:16

It is alleged taht he travelled with his fellow Muslim roommates and students to Indonesia, Kenya, India, and Pakistan at the ages of 20 and 21 while in college on his Indonesian passport.
No one knows how this was paid for.

Reply to: ga188291
If Obama was born in Hawaii he could get a replacement proving his birth there. How could he get a passport for foreign travel without his birth certificate?

Just wondering….

Bill


RE: RE: Obama birth
Posted by Frank Lee on Oct 22, 2008 17:12

Bob:
In addition to what you say. The COLB at FactCheck is not a real long form or vault birth certificate, as required by the lawsuit.
Besides FactCheck is funded by The Annenberg Foundation, hardly an unbiased source.
Please read my other posts.

Reply to: bob
The only thing that Fact check.org proved is that they don’t have anyone capable of producing a “good” copy. I do agree that we should focus on the real issues like, Bill Ayers, Rev. Wright etc.


RE: RE: Obama birth
Posted by jw365754 on Oct 22, 2008 17:03

Factcheck.org is an Annenberg Foundation product and unreliable. Consider the source.

Reply to: bob
The only thing that Fact check.org proved is that they don’t have anyone capable of producing a “good” copy. I do agree that we should focus on the real issues like, Bill Ayers, Rev. Wright etc.


RE: RE: Born In the USA? – What
Posted by ra149494 on Oct 22, 2008 17:00

If obama is elected then he and his party get to pick the members of the electoral college

They go to vote.. AT THAT POINT — IS THE FIRST POINT where he is vetted. (Anyone can RUN for President.. only those that match the constitution rules can be sworn in

So the electoral college folks are free to pick their own candidate. (yes they PICK, hillary, or nancy or even can pick Tina Fey if they want.

Reply to: fromans4
So if what you say is true, and I am not disputing it…then the matter is already settled. That would be a cryin’ shame.


RE: RE: RE: What
Posted by Lois42644 on Oct 22, 2008 16:30

My thought if Obama is elected and he was proven that he was not a natural born citizen would the election be considered fraud. McCain should win by default.

Reply to: fromans4
Would there then be a special election or would we be stuck with Biden for 4 years? If his election is declared void, wouldn’t Biden be also? I mean, they’re on the same ticket and I would think the whole ticket would be void…right?


RE: Obama birth
Posted by bob on Oct 22, 2008 16:12

The only thing that Fact check.org proved is that they don’t have anyone capable of producing a “good” copy. I do agree that we should focus on the real issues like, Bill Ayers, Rev. Wright etc.

Reply to: ra189754
Fact check.org went to Chicago and looked at the real birth certificate. They posted about it and declared it to be authentic. They do check out both sides and are a better place to go for information than blog sites. You people need to concentrate on the real issues and forget these red herrings. You hear what you wish was true and listen to those who are noted for fraud thereby reducing any sense that others will listen to arguments that might have more weight.


RE: RE: Three questions
Posted by jaimo on Oct 22, 2008 15:44

I’m less concerned about an Hawaiian birth certificate. I believe he was born here, but what about the other fly in the ointment that his mother married an Indonesian named Lolo Soetoro and Obama was adopted by him, there are records out there that show that Obama attended school and went by the name Barry Soetoro while in Indonesia. Apparently Indonesia did not have dual citizenship at that time and to be able to attend school you had to be a citizen. His mother would have had to revoke his citizenship for him to be adopted by the Indonesian. Later upon return to the U.S. Obama would only be eligible for naturalized citizenship status, thereby not being eligible to run for the Presidency.

Reply to: Ralnan
Reply to mt288416:

The answer to all three of your questions is that Obama and his relative, the murdering Kenya leader, Raila Odinga, of Kenya, will NOT allow it! However, his grandmother and an aunt have already said they “were so proud of Obama when he was born in KENYA”! Obama refuses to release any of his records – personal, medical, family, or educational – because he’s hiding information that would disqualify him to be our president! My question is: “How on earth is he getting away with that?” Can’t you just SEE what would have happened if a conservative candidate had tried to pull the same stunt? The Judicial Branch of the U. S. Government is responsible for this travesty; and I hope and pray there’s someone out there who has the authority and “know-how” to reach the Supreme Court and demand this man present a valid birth certificate or boot him out of the candidacy before he and his anti-America, anti-God cohorts and terrorist supporters destroy America as we know it…and as Odinga is currently doing in Kenya! He and his army have bombed many churches, but not even one mosque there! According to information from missionaries who are in Kenya, Obama and Odinga are on the phone to each other daily! What does that tell you? I know that no one but God can destroy the earth, His creation; but if Obama isn’t stopped before Nov. 4, he very well could be the one who will destroy OUR nation! Again, the only way we “commoners” have to defeat him is to VOTE him out on Nov. 4. And please, do not allow the socialist, communist mainstream media to make you think it would do no good for us conservatives to vote Nov. 4, because Obama is ahead in the “polls”. That’s a trick some people fell for in one of past elections, and that’s how Clinton won! We the people must be more informed, and diligent in our beliefs and actions re: this election that’s more critical than any other in the past! In no other election in which I’ve voted over the years was our national sovereignty in danger! If Obama isn’t stopped (as he very legally could be stopped if the authorities to do so would get off their duffs and DO it) our lives will be changed for the worst…forever! There is so much he would do to us that could never be reversed, even if we survived it! Just imagine what our children, grandchilden, and future generations would be living in under the rule of an Arab Muslim! who has made many statements that prove he’s anti-America! Obama is not a Black man. He says he is for political reasons! But then the truth is not in the man! He would deny he’s breathing, if someone accused him of it!


Obama Birth Certificate
Posted by ga188291 on Oct 22, 2008 15:34

If Obama was born in Hawaii he could get a replacement proving his birth there. How could he get a passport for foreign travel without his birth certificate?

Just wondering….

Bill


RE: Born In the USA? – What’ll happen
Posted by fromans4 on Oct 22, 2008 15:32

So if what you say is true, and I am not disputing it…then the matter is already settled. That would be a cryin’ shame.

Reply to: hmolsen
The US Constitution states that to be qualified to run for President a candidate must be a natural born citizen. If there’s any question as to Obama’s true citizenship (or McCain’s for that matter since during the primaries Democrats claimed that he wasn’t a natural born citizen)then he should be required to prove that he is a natural born citizen. The fact that Obama is apparently refusing to prove that he is a natural born citizen leads me to wonder what he has to hide. What happens if Obama gets elected and then it is proven that he is not a natural born citizen? If the Democrats hold the majority in both houses they absolutely will not allow Obama to be removed from office. The Democrats are so hungry for power that they will resort to anything to get it, even breaking the law and violating the Constitution. This issue needs to be settled NOW!


RE: Obama is an Illegal Alien!
Posted by ar309763 on Oct 22, 2008 15:03

Chris, you are absolutely right. Let’s see if we can pick up our courage, our morals, and our senses that we seem to have lost somewhere between Hollywood and paying taxes that we were never meant to pay; and make sure that nobody becomes President of this country who is not eligible to do so. Just one question. Who is going to lead us?

Reply to: Chris2

The Constitution clearly states that in order for one to be President Of The United States, one must be born in the United States. Obama was born in Kenya and is a citizen of Kenya and is not a citizen of the United States. Obama’s own Grandmother, as well as several other of his relatives, swear that they were present at the birth of Obama in Kenya and actually saw his birth in Kenya, they were there, they saw him being born in Kenya, not the United States.

Furthermore, two different professional document experts swear that they have scientifically examined the birth certificate Obama claims is his, and they swear that, that birth certificate is forged and is absolutly not Obama’s birth certificate. They say that the document that Obama’s claims is his birth certificate is an altered birth certificate belonging to someone other than Obama. They swear that the real birth data on that birth certificate has been erased and the birth data of Obama has been placed over the top of the erased data in order to make it look like someone else’s birth certificate is Obama’s birth certificate. They say that the changed data is obvious and they also say that the birth certificate form, Obama claims is his, is a type of form that did not exist in the era Obama was born. It is the wrong form for that time.

The Constitution of the United States clearly dictates that a person born in a foreign country cannot be President of the United States. It is completely unconstitutional for Obama, being a non-citizen, to be the President.

Why doesn’t our Federal Government follow the Constitution and disallow his campaign for the Presidency? More and more, the Federal Government is ignoring the Constitution of the United States.

When the Federal Government ignores the Constitution and operates outside the Constitution it become an outlaw government, operating outside the law and operating only under the color of law which is treason pure and simple. Our founding fathers clearly stated in their writings that, when the Government acts as an outlaw government, the people have the right, and the duty, to rise up and replace those in the Government who are operating as outlaws by governing outside the restrictions and dictates of the Constitution of the United States.

If non-citizen Obama becomes President, it will be outside the Constitution, illegal, and treasonous. If he, as a non- citizen of the United States, becomes President it will, for all practical purposes, be a Socialist/Communist coup: an illegal, unconstitutional, take over of our government by a Socialist/Communist network of traitors headed by an illegal alien, Obama.

Our people must stand up and loudly demand that Obama offer absolute proof that he was born in the United States and we must demand that our government do their Constitutional duty and investigate his citizenship and thereby his being qualified to be President of The United States Of America. If such absolute proof is not given, we the people must never recognize him as being President and must resist in every legal way his presidency.

Fellow citizens keep vigilant and keep your powder dry. A Socialist/Communist coup is being attempted against our nation.

Jesus please have mercy on and save the United States of America.


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